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AJs vs solid multitabler's UTG 8x BB shove ($27)

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  1. #1

    Default AJs vs solid multitabler's UTG 8x BB shove ($27)

    UTG is Luisgallo, a 2+2er and winning multitabler (+$10k over 8k games, 7% ROI). Is he shoving wide enough for me to make this call?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB (t3130)
    BB (t3585)
    UTG (t1185)
    Hero (t1090)
    CO (t2665)
    Button (t1845)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, J.
    UTG raises to t1185, Hero ????
  2. #2
    Not when he is shoving from UTG with the 2 big stacks in the blinds


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    Nah, he's not desperate yet, i'd say 66+ A10+ or something
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    Good players are shoving a much wider range than bad players in this spot. I would call but it's close.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Good players are shoving a much wider range than bad players in this spot. I would call but it's close.
    Really? You think your average donk can get away from 2s here?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Good players are shoving a much wider range than bad players in this spot. I would call but it's close.
    Really? You think your average donk can get away from 2s here?
    I simply think a good player knows it's correct to shove a huge range in this spot while a donk doesn't. In my experience bad players show up with bigger hands here. That's what makes this a call.
  7. #7
    Is UTG good enough to notice how the players in the blinds have been playing (loose v tight, in general)? If so, then it's reasonable to call IMO if they have been playing tight, and certainly not if they have been playing loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Good players are shoving a much wider range than bad players in this spot. I would call but it's close.
    Really? You think your average donk can get away from 2s here?
    I simply think a good player knows it's correct to shove a huge range in this spot while a donk doesn't. In my experience bad players show up with bigger hands here. That's what makes this a call.
    Huh? It's not correct to shove with a huge range, opp is UTG and still has ~8 BBs. I've seen players shove ATC UTG with 5bbs but 8 is too much, villain will still have FE after the blinds go through him...

    It's very tight... I think you have to let it go
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    You need to factor the chance of running into TT+/AKish stuff from a player yet to act when considering your EV here.

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