BB FD Flop , OESD Turn (6.50)

[DetroitHusling101]

Pretty much thinking i should have bet turn since i was willing to call a bet anyway. Amirite?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 (t1670)
CO (t1270)
Button (t1485)
SB (t3205)
Hero (t1470)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1390)
MP1 (t1510)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, J.
4 folds, CO calls t30, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) 3, 8, 4 (3 players)
SB bets t30, Hero calls t30, CO calls t30.

Turn: (t180) T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets t90, SB folds, Hero calls t90.

River: (t360) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: t360

[taipan168]

Seems fine, I play it the same.

[DetroitHusling101]

Just seems in a lot of poker books i've read that it's better to be the bettor if you plan on calling a bet anyway. If it was a heads up pot instead of multiway i probally bet here.
I guess though a lot of poker literature doesn't account for SNG structure with our limited amount of chips.
I think im being result oriented because after the checkdown what he showed i think i could of definitly bet him out of this pot on the turn.

[badgers]

I would bet the turn. You have a monster draw and nobody looked that strong on the flop so I think you have a good bit of FE.

[taipan168]

I would bet the turn. You have a monster draw and nobody looked that strong on the flop so I think you have a good bit of FE.

I always wuss out when my OESFD comes on the turn rather than the flop as our ~50% to win just became ~25% and just tend to take the free/cheap card. May be a leak of mine though.

That said, I don't hate betting or C-R here but betting or C-Ring depends on having some FE and I'm not sure how much FE we have against two opps.

[badgers]

I would bet the turn. You have a monster draw and nobody looked that strong on the flop so I think you have a good bit of FE.

I always wuss out when my OESFD comes on the turn rather than the flop as our ~50% to win just became ~25% and just tend to take the free/cheap card. May be a leak of mine though.

That said, I don't hate betting or C-R here but betting or C-Ring depends on having some FE and I'm not sure how much FE we have against two opps.

I would think we have a lot of FE, and when we don't the implied odds more than make up for -EV of not taking the free card, ie. when someone calls they will also often have a hand that will call a large river bet when we've hit.

[TLR]

I would bet the turn but I dont think the way you played it was bad

[drmcboy]

Raise flop, then I would bet the turn against the SB if just he calls, maybe look to play slower against CO or both since he has bigger suited cards more often. Maybe CR turn AI.

[TLR]

Raise flop, then I would bet the turn against the SB if just he calls, maybe look to play slower against CO or both since he has bigger suited cards more often. Maybe CR turn AI.

When I read the hand my initial thought was to raise flop, but it was more of an 'instict' feeling and I did not come up with a good explanation on why is it good to raise here with someone behind and a minraise in front.

Can you elaborate a bit on why do you think raising flop is correct ?

[drmcboy]

we're a flip against TP and often these guys have a lot less than that.

So we should get a lot of folds, which is good.

That also means we don't make much on average when we hit. I'd like calling a lot more if someone had raised pre and we called. Or if you are calling because you think you're have more FE on the turn.

Someone with something like QJ or A9 (non spades) should fold and we buy/protect some outs.

Ax (unpaired) will fold and you protect against them catching an A on the turn that lets them continue.

With this min bet ATC may stick around. they are probably a dog to us but again won't pay us much even if they make a second best hand.

[Geanosssss]

Honestly? ...I dont see the point in posting this.

[DetroitHusling101]

?
Point was to see what others think in terms of if i should have played this draw agressivly or passivly.
I was confused if i played to passive so i posted the hand to see if i was right in my thinking of betting out on the turn.
Why post a reply if it's going to be something like

Honestly? ...I dont see the point in posting this.

I don't see your point in posting that.

[DetroitHusling101]

Raise flop, then I would bet the turn against the SB if just he calls, maybe look to play slower against CO or both since he has bigger suited cards more often. Maybe CR turn AI.

I think in multiway pots i play to passive. WIthout a made hand i was scared to raise the flop i think.
If i had the FD and OESD on the flop it would have been a whole different story though.

[Geanosssss]

?
Point was to see what others think in terms of if i should have played this draw agressivly or passivly.
I was confused if i played to passive so i posted the hand to see if i was right in my thinking of betting out on the turn.
Why post a reply if it's going to be something like

Honestly? ...I dont see the point in posting this.

I don't see your point in posting that.

Honestly? ...I needed one more post to become a flush.

[TLR]

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