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  1. #1

    Default $6.5 - a few unconverted problem hands

    I saved a few problem hands some weeks ago and send it to a poker friend of mine for review.
    He commented on the hands, but I would like more comments on the hands.
    I can not convert it anymore, because I cut the bottom part to make it easier for him to review and not be result orientated.
    Thanks in advance.
    Edit: sorry hand 3 is from a $16 game.

    My comments in blue.
    His comments in red.

    -- Hand #1 --
    PokerStars Game #12411739058: Tournament #62991130, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/10/03 - 09:23:42 (ET)
    Table '62991130 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: SEEK777 (1400 in chips)
    Seat 3: lemmoha (1240 in chips)
    Seat 4: mattiesmat (775 in chips)
    Seat 5: esoccer10 (3003 in chips)
    Seat 6: greif74 (1842 in chips)
    Seat 7: Khudz (1875 in chips)
    Seat 8: hohenneuen (1570 in chips)
    Seat 9: GoldenCaeser (1795 in chips)
    mattiesmat: posts small blind 25
    esoccer10: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mattiesmat [Ah Js]
    greif74: folds
    Khudz: folds
    hohenneuen: folds
    GoldenCaeser: folds
    SEEK777: folds
    lemmoha: folds
    mattiesmat: raises 100 to 150
    esoccer10: raises 150 to 300
    mattiesmat: ?? I think he was average’ish. Oh, without any reads this easy shove over with your stack size, I rarely fold a good hand like AJ when it is blind vs blind. If he is a very tight player I would fold here, if he is LAGG then I break my mouse shoving over.

    -- Hand #2 --
    PokerStars Game #12412832431: Tournament #62997909, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/03 - 10:58:39 (ET)
    Table '62997909 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: jjgardens (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Lacky1001 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: Man of Lard (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: OSHUSTLER4L (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: Chantal Dusy (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: mattiesmat (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: yohanminois (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: mtyler89 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: t_gdublin (1500 in chips)
    Lacky1001: posts small blind 10
    Man of Lard: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mattiesmat [Kd Ad]
    OSHUSTLER4L: calls 20
    Chantal Dusy: folds
    mattiesmat: raises 80 to 100
    yohanminois: folds
    mtyler89: folds
    t_gdublin: calls 100
    jjgardens: folds
    Lacky1001: folds
    Man of Lard: folds
    OSHUSTLER4L: folds
    *** FLOP *** [8d 5s 6s]
    mattiesmat: bets 125
    t_gdublin: raises 125 to 250 This has happened to me like 3 or 4 times in a row. I c-bet the flop and get (small) raised. Is it just bad luck or is the raise amount or the flop texture? Nothing you can do. A lot of the ‘trickier’ low buyin players like to minraise to try to pick off your c-bet as cheaply as possible, but sometimes this is the nuts. Note if you had As Ks I would instashove over. So just fold to always?

    -- Hand #3 --
    PokerStars Game #12413045503: Tournament #62997558, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/10/03 - 11:15:47 (ET)
    Table '62997558 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Miikkel (1650 in chips)
    Seat 2: skriv (1220 in chips)
    Seat 3: yeyq (1320 in chips)
    Seat 4: Pinguser (1135 in chips)
    Seat 5: troystory (1805 in chips)
    Seat 6: mattiesmat (1395 in chips)
    Seat 7: hoping4luck (2210 in chips)
    Seat 8: toddstl (1180 in chips)
    Seat 9: Remcones (1585 in chips)
    yeyq: posts small blind 50
    Pinguser: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mattiesmat [Qs Ah]
    troystory: calls 100
    mattiesmat: raises 1295 to 1395 and is all-in What about this play? I did not want to fold AQ, and raising to 350-400 would make c-betting expensive and almost commit myself. However is pushing with AQ UTG+1 at a full table with 13BB’s not too risky? Seems fine, I think I shove this too but I’m not delighted about 8 players still left to act. That said, the only hands you are really fearing in this spot are QQ+ and AK and that’s <2% of hands.

    -- Hand #4 --
    PokerStars Game #12413062088: Tournament #62998053, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/10/03 - 11:17:06 (ET)
    Table '62998053 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Darkbimon (1925 in chips)
    Seat 2: charlib46 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 3: mattiesmat (1325 in chips)
    Seat 4: bosssbosss (3345 in chips)
    Seat 5: superstar07 (1340 in chips)
    Seat 6: ToneyLove (745 in chips)
    Seat 7: grabdan00 (1025 in chips)
    Seat 8: fleahouseyos (840 in chips)
    Seat 9: gentlefade3 (1485 in chips)
    mattiesmat: posts small blind 50
    bosssbosss: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mattiesmat [8d Ah]
    superstar07: folds
    ToneyLove: folds
    grabdan00: folds
    fleahouseyos: folds
    gentlefade3: folds
    Darkbimon: folds
    charlib46: folds
    mattiesmat: raises 200 to 300 Can I raise here? Even with a loose BB? Oh yeah, I’m not folding this. The other option would be to shove but 13.5x BB is just slightly too big stacked for me to shove here.
    bosssbosss: raises 3045 to 3345 and is all-in
    mattiesmat: folds You know, given the BB is loose (is he LAGG or loose/passive?), I tend to call this. That said, I am not that familiar with the average $6.50 opp. Wow interesting. I would call with AJs+ JJ+
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
  2. #2
    The only place that I disagree with your friend is in the last hand. I'm usually calling tighter than this. It depends on exactly what you mean by loose - is BB calling a lot or reraising a lot?

    I think I prefer the line of shoving preflop to bet/call. It's close, because if BB is loose/aggressive, you lose a bit of value in that you can get your chips in with a slight advantage most of the time and blinds are getting high enough to warrant taking some chances.

    If you were a bit shorter, it's a definite shove. Even here, I think there's a lot more you can do if you just take the pot down rather than get in what is likely to be a 60/40 at best. When you shove, most LAGs will be folding A9/55 types of hands, meaning that a decent part of the range you don't want action from is going away anyway.
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  3. #3
    I was the friend who commented in red

    I think an open shove is unexploitable and certainly the standard play. However, in this spot against an aggressive BB (both tight and loose) I sometimes just standard raise to induce a push over re-steal. This is quite possibly overthinking at the $6.50 level though.

    Unless the BB is super passive, I can't see folding to a push after standard raising considering our stack size.
  4. #4
    The thing about it is that we only have Ax. Assuming BB is LAG and not LP, then we're definitely ahead of his range, but we're never ahead by a large margin.

    To me, it all depends on how much the table will let us get away with. If we can get back the lost chips with a couple of shoves, then it's better to let it go (assuming BB is passive). If BB is passive (not super passive - just relatively passive), we don't compare favorably with his range. Shoving with FE later works out better.
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