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$5 SNG (9 players)...couple misplayed hands?

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  1. #1

    Default $5 SNG (9 players)...couple misplayed hands?

    In this first hand, why wasn't I able to re-raise when it came back around to me...I could only call the extra $80. I think all the players in the hand could only call here and not re-raise. I think if I could have re-raised preflop here I could have gotten at least one of them to call and have a potential to win a much bigger pot

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t870)
    SB (t3625)
    BB (t4270)
    UTG (t2470)
    Hero (t1885)
    CO (t380)


    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A.
    UTG calls t100, Hero raises to t300, CO raises to t380, Button calls t380, 1 fold, BB calls t280, UTG calls t280, Hero calls t80.

    Flop: (t1950) 8, 6, 2 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t900, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

    Turn: (t2850) A (2 players)

    River: (t2850) Q (2 players)

    Final Pot: t1950


    In the other hand, with the bet on the flop, I figured my opponent had a decent hand that they would call my raise. I guess I should have just called here...thoughts?
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    UTG (t3350)
    Button (t4445)
    SB (t2625)
    Hero (t3080)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
    1 fold, Button calls t150, 1 fold, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t375) , , (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets t750, Hero raises to t2100, Button folds.

    Final Pot: t1875
  2. #2
    Hand 1:
    Yes someone please clarify why you cannot reraise after a player goes all in following your intial raise. I hate this. Happens to me a lot when i have AA.
    I probally raise 400 here since there's one limper. Maybe i only raise 300 if the table has been extra tight. Would suck to get all folds.

    Hand 2:
    I think you could have smooth called his bet and see if he fires at it on the turn than re raise him.
    Maybe even min-raise here.
  3. #3
    1st hand it's like one of the rules of poker obv. CO's push is less than a minraise so it sort of counts as a call so you can't reraise.

    2nd hand doesn't really matter, Button either has a big hand/ spade draw or is bluffing so just shove because you're not going to get more value by calling imo, and it makes him pay if he has the f/d.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    2nd hand doesn't really matter, Button either has a big hand/ spade draw or is bluffing so just shove because you're not going to get more value by calling imo, and it makes him pay if he has the f/d.
    Why not slowplay with the nuts?
    I rarely slowplay and HONESTLY would probally have done the same thing , reraise , but after reviewing a lot of my HH where i flop the nut straight it seems like i could have played it a bit slower.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    2nd hand doesn't really matter, Button either has a big hand/ spade draw or is bluffing so just shove because you're not going to get more value by calling imo, and it makes him pay if he has the f/d.
    Why not slowplay with the nuts?
    I rarely slowplay and HONESTLY would probally have done the same thing , reraise , but after reviewing a lot of my HH where i flop the nut straight it seems like i could have played it a bit slower.
    Meh, it doesn't really matter tbh, but if you call, the next card is a spade and opp shoves you're pretty screwed...
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Meh, it doesn't really matter tbh, but if you call, the next card is a spade and opp shoves you're pretty screwed...
    True.
    I just notice villian EXTREMLY overbet's the pot.
    Which makes me doubt he even has a FD. If a spade hits and he shoves i call.
    Makes me think he has AIR and will probally not fire another barrell at the pot though regardless after betting 2X the pot and getting called, so yeah i guess shoving works best here.
    Who knows though some of these maniac overly aggressive players will take your call as weakness and figure you are the one on the draw and shove the turn if a spade DOESNT hit.
    Im overthinking the whole situation and hand though so yeah shove IS my default play but i was trying to think outside of the box lol.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Meh, it doesn't really matter tbh, but if you call, the next card is a spade and opp shoves you're pretty screwed...
    True.
    I just notice villian EXTREMLY overbet's the pot.
    Which makes me doubt he even has a FD.
    Makes me think he has AIR and will probally not fire another barrell at the pot regardless , so yeah i guess shoving works best here.
    Zing. That's what I meant in the first post about it either being big hand/ fd or total air.

    I think it could easily be a fd though, I see them overbet/ overvalued a lot (though I'm not playing sngs atm...)
  8. #8
    If a player's bet is not a proper size (at least as big as the bet before it, so here 600 total, 300 to call your bet plus 300 to raise) it is not considered to have re opened the betting from the previous action.

    In the hand posted, the previous action is your raise, so everyone except you could have re raised if they would have wanted to because they had not yet acted on your raise. But you cannot because you were raised 80 chips which is not a legal raise.

    If, for example, the positions of button and CO were reversed, the (new) CO with the 870 stack could have called or re raised as normal. If he called, then if the (new) button with the 380 stack had still moved in, either blind could still re raise along with UTG, but if no one opened the betting up again (with a raise at least as big as yours) the CO could only call the addition 80.

    OTOH, if you had folded and the 380 stack shoves over UTG's limp from the CO, that would be a legal raise and everyone can do whatever they like.
  9. #9
    In the 2nd hand, my opponent said they had a small pair, so I guess I should have just called here. Now if I had have slow played that, they would have had the flush draw and the other spade would have come on the turn or river

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