Interesting spot early on ($5.50)

[Geanosssss]

Early on so no reads. What do you do here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (t1520)
BB (t1380)
UTG (t1030)
Hero (t1670)
MP1 (t1635)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1815)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K.
1 fold, Hero raises to t60, 4 folds, Button calls t60, 2 folds.

Flop: (t150) J, 4, Q (2 players)
Hero bets t90, Button raises to t500, Hero??

[taipan168]

I would make it 80-100 to go from UTG+1 at a $5.50 so that you don't get 5 callers, but meh.

On the flop, I'm shoving over all day long with the nut flush draw, a gutshot and two overcards. You have at least nine good flush outs, probably three Ts and possibly five As and Ks to improve.

[TLR]

Your abolulty worse case scenario is the case he has a made flush, then you have 6-7 outs, which is roughly 25%.
In case he has 2 pair or trips you have 12 outs, and in case he has TP you have 15-18 outs.

The important thing here is that you have to see both the turn and river cards, as Tai said pushing over is the best move

[drmcboy]

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

shove fine, call shove any turn fine

[Geanosssss]

Your abolulty worse case scenario is the case he has a made flush, then you have 6-7 outs, which is roughly 25%.

Yeah that was all I was worried about. But I wasnt sure whether I wanted to risk all my chips this early in such a marginal situation, when I feel I have a significent edge over the table and Ive barely invested any chips in the pot.

[taipan168]

Your abolulty worse case scenario is the case he has a made flush, then you have 6-7 outs, which is roughly 25%.

Yeah that was all I was worried about. But I wasnt sure whether I wanted to risk all my chips this early in such a marginal situation, when I feel I have a significent edge over the table and Ive barely invested any chips in the pot.

Um, with a minimum of 6-7 outs but probably 9, 12 or even 17 - what's marginal about this situation? I'd say you're at least 50/50 to win this hand provided opp didn't flop a flush or a set, you have a little fold equity and even if you get called 100% of the time you have more than correct odds to take a 50/50 here.

[Geanosssss]

50/50 isnt marginal??

[drmcboy]

pot odds yo

you are just giving money away folding this hand, period. Read Theory of Poker. You don't seem to understand basic poker concepts so I doubt you have the skill edge you think you do. "I have only invested XXX" is just terrible poker nonsense. The pot is the pot.

[TLR]

50/50 isnt marginal??

With dead money in the pot, no

[mcatdog]

I feel I have a significent edge over the table

This feeling isn't justified.

I don't mean that as a put-down; it's not possible to have such a big skill edge in SnG's that you'd want to pass up a spot as +EV as this one.

[Geanosssss]

k thanx for feedback, I did infact push and was pretty sure it was the correct play, just wondered what other people would do.

[Gore Blimey]

I feel I have a significent edge over the table

This feeling isn't justified.

I don't mean that as a put-down; it's not possible to have such a big skill edge in SnG's that you'd want to pass up a spot as +EV as this one.

Hold the fuck on! If this spot is +EV, it's *barely* +EV. Against QJ or a set we have 13 outs, and both have redraws -- we're behind both. Against a made flush, we have 7 outs so long as he doesn't have Ks9s, KsTs or Ts9s -- miles behind that. Against KsQx we have plenty of outs. Best pray he has that, TsTx or something else totally retarded. This is a fairly thin push. Yeah, he should make it, but it's not huge.