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  1. #1

    Default JJ (Bubble) 6.50

    Well not technically bubble. 5 handed but 2 stacks have barely a BB each.
    I was lost on how to play this. Would a min-raise of been better . I've gotta fold if a big stack shoves , correct?
    LOL when i picked up this hand i seriously said "WHY NOW?".

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t3525)
    MP (t680)
    Button (t760)
    SB (t3245)
    BB (t5290)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J.
    Hero raises half shove because he's scared of bubbling! , 4 folds.

    Final Pot: t250
  2. #2
    Push obv. Raising half your stack then considering folding is not really good.
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  3. #3
    Im folding if big stacks shoves. You guys dont need to answer that part for me.
    Mainly should i have just min raised?
    I decided to risk half my stack so sb bb would hopefully fold.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Im folding if big stacks shoves. You guys dont need to answer that part for me.
    Mainly should i have just min raised?
    I decided to risk half my stack so sb bb would hopefully fold.
    This makes even less sense than before. Wtf are you minraising for? Shoving 5BBs with the blinds this big has to be unexploitable. I don't even know if you can fold to a big stack shove getting over 3:1 when ahead of his range.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Push obv. Raising half your stack then considering folding is not really good.
    Ok...yeah raising half my stack and leaving myself with 3bbs if i fold is pretty bad.

    But shove is the right thing?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Im folding if big stacks shoves. You guys dont need to answer that part for me.
    Mainly should i have just min raised?
    I decided to risk half my stack so sb bb would hopefully fold.
    This makes even less sense than before. Wtf are you minraising for? Shoving 5BBs with the blinds this big has to be unexploitable. I don't even know if you can fold to a big stack shove getting over 3:1 when ahead of his range.
    Yeah i dont know what im thinking.
  7. #7
    Shove all day long, there is NO other play here.
  8. #8
    ok . i got scurred. bubbled way to much today.
  9. #9
    and big stack only has 2 bb more than me. i shoulda been able to figure this out myself that its a obvious shove. its him who cant call without a premium hand. this post is now embaressing lol.
    on a side note when do i have to fold JJ or QQ on the bubble?
    If stacks are same butblinds 100/200 and i standard raise and big stack pushes over?
    how about if im in BB with JJ same stack sizes some blind 300/600 and big stack pushes?
    in 500+ sngs im yet to find that situation where i have to fold JJ or QQ on the bubble to the big stack.
    guess ive been thinking too hard about this topic.
  10. #10
    Shove all day. The big stack isn't going to risk becoming a short stack without a solid hand like 99+/AJ+ and you're in good shape against most of those.
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    on a side note when do i have to fold JJ or QQ on the bubble?
    If stacks are same butblinds 100/200 and i standard raise and big stack pushes over?
    how about if im in BB with JJ same stack sizes some blind 300/600 and big stack pushes?
    in 500+ sngs im yet to find that situation where i have to fold JJ or QQ on the bubble to the big stack.
    guess ive been thinking too hard about this topic.
    Very situation and read dependent, but there would have to be some extreme situation (eg. a very very short stack that will be AI in the BB next hand) before folding QQ or JJ on the bubble would be correct. AK is an ENTIRELY different story however.
  12. #12
    Dont fear bubbling out, it happens

    In this case I push, picking up the blinds is a nice addition to your stack and if you get called its a nice bonus


  13. #13
    I'm loving getting JJ here and with your M you have to push and hope for a call

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