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Weekly please.
We should have a rotation of players each week to come up with an idea.
i.e.
Week 1. Sauce
Week 2. zook
Week 3. ISF
Week 4. Gabe
Week 5. p4's
etc.
This week lets do 3 betting theory as sauce has suggested.
"Should we be 3betting a polarized range or a balanced one?"
-I'm big on the polar idea versus opponents with tight calling ranges. There a parts of your game that become exploitable if your being strictly polar. If your strictly polar your opponent may figure out that you're showing up with low cards and draws way more often than high pairs and play accordingly. This is only a minor problem, as we can adjust the same way (although its hard to figure out if our opponent figures it out).
I just hate the idea of threebetting a hand like QTs, KJ, QJs, JTs, KTs in position because they play well in non threebet pots and horrible against opps calling range. If you're OOP though I like threebetting any cards really. I think it gives a really impossible to read factor of your game and opps have to just go by frequency's. If he's not calling loosely though, again I just don't see theoretically how a non polar range is good.
Although I have only talked about calling ranges of opponent, one really REALLY big factor in determining threebet frequency is how much do they give up postflop? If they literally will never fold you need to tighten up your threebet range because all you do is play into their game by having air a lot (theoretically really -EV). IF he is giving up a lot pre and bluffing very little I town the mother fucker! OOP, In pos, it doesnt matter, if he's not going to play against you without a pair he's going to go down hard.
"Why (exactly) does a loose-aggressive style seem to succeed more often as we move up in stakes?"
It's because ultimately we want as much as possible in our range balanced with bluffs or in another way we want the ability to take away the pot at any time without a hand. Ultimately, the better aggressor is going to win. When you aren't in control you are forced to play predicatbly and "counter play" your opponent. What your left with is a gigantic guessing game where you are the one guessing and not your opponent. The only way you're going to beat a more aggressive player than you is if he's bad.
Good players know this, which is why you see a guy like CTS limping his BU to take back aggression in the match (although CTS said in the video to reduce variance, tbh I think that's only part of it).
Take this situation for instance. Opp is threebetting like a monkey and is good hand reader. You raise preflop, opp threebet you call with AA. Flop comes 56K, he leads.
A lot of people tend to call here. But in reality a majority of the time you can't. What if you have 78, air, or another hand and you want to play back? You can raise yes, but good players are going to take you to town light because your range isnt balanced.
You can call, yes, but opp can always take you off your hand with a two barrel. Eventually, you are going to have to RAISE an aggressive player of a hand, and you can't always do it with the essential nuts or your going to get killed. You have to find ways to take control of the match again, or your lines are going to be unbalanced and you're going to suffer.
Which brings me too....
"What frequencies should we be either 4bet/folding or 4bet calling as semibluffs? (pre) "
4 betting/calling is so sick versus light threebetting opponents for a few reasons.
1. By doing so we force our opponent either to widen his calling range with a hand that he'll at best have a 60/40 edge against you post flop. Because if he doesn't, we just forced him to tighten his light threebetting range.
2. We don't have to play without initiative.
3. It takes away position from our opponents.
I think fourbet/folding only have value versus certain opponents really, only the ones who aren't going to widen their fourbet calling (shoving) ranges and are only going in with the super strong hands.
I'm interested in a response from Cocco Bill in this thread because his style is so non aggressive yet he kills the games. I just don't understand how you can do that and win the kind of money he does without sick game selection and really soft websites.
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