JJ 3-bet pot 3way, flop decision.

[Muzzard]

I tanked this one. Preflop I think is standard, on the flop I was worried more about the 3-bettor obv, and was going to bet/fold to him. I figured bet/fold was superior to c/c. Now the MP throws a spanner into the works...

Fairly new to table, not many reads - but I'd say MP is the looser of the two in the hand for sure.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($64.55)
UTG ($57.95)
MP ($50)
CO ($49.75)
Button ($52.95)
SB ($65.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, Button raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($12.25) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $8, MP raises to $46, Button folds, Hero??

[Ash256]

I don't understand this - what worse hands do you expect to call your flop donkbet?

as played, idk, i probably cry and call

[kettleofish]

idk, if he's not totally full of it, is he ever doing this with 88-1010? Otherwise you're fucked by set or a better PP. If i knew MP was an aggro spaztard i'd call in a heartbeat, otherwise fold.

[daven]

fold

[Muzzard]

I don't understand this - what worse hands do you expect to call your flop donkbet?

as played, idk, i probably cry and call

I'm not expecting The BU to call, I'm expecting to fold out possible AK/AQ and raise QQ+. You're advocating a c/f line? That seems a little nitty, no? Check/calling is even worse. It's not necessarily about getting hands I beat to call, I'd rather c/f than c/c as I can't fold the flop to 1 bet right?

[Ash256]

I don't understand this - what worse hands do you expect to call your flop donkbet?

as played, idk, i probably cry and call

I'm not expecting The BU to call, I'm expecting to fold out possible AK/AQ and raise QQ+. You're advocating a c/f line? That seems a little nitty, no? Check/calling is even worse. It's not necessarily about getting hands I beat to call, I'd rather c/f than c/c as I can't fold the flop to 1 bet right?

The button is who scares me the most as his range is probs TT-AA, AK, AQs.

I don't mind a c/f line at all, MP's hand confuses the shit out of me, fuck knows what he has.

[Muzzard]

I don't mind a c/f line at all, MP's hand confuses the shit out of me, fuck knows what he has.

Yeah I was expecting to be int pot vs BU. I'm not saying it's good/bad - but you fold JJ for 1 bet, if it was just me and BU?

Agreed, I was really confused what MP had.I could pretty much rule out AA-QQ due to pre. I was thinking along the lines of set or FD, I had no idea really how good/bad he was. BTW this was insta-push by MP no time to think it through.

From a good player would a set just call? Esp as there is a possibility CO has QQ+ and may raise himself. Or raise to 20 and stick it in on the turn?

[Ash256]

I'm pretty sure a good player raises a set on that board.

If MP's bad we can't rule out QQ-AA.. Actually fuck knows what line to take here, this hand confuses the shit out of me so much, I can't put anyone on anything.