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$16 - KJ bubble, fold?

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  1. 12-03-2007 10:39 AM #1
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    Default $16 - KJ bubble, fold?

    Fold here?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG

    UTG (t45)
    Hero (t2475)
    SB (t6809)
    BB (t4171)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K.
    Hero ??
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  2. 12-03-2007 10:43 AM #2
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    would a flat call be the worst idea ever?

    I'm just curious.
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  3. 12-03-2007 12:07 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscheese
    would a flat call be the worst idea ever?

    I'm just curious.
    Calling is definitely worse than pushing or folding. I would fold this, even though I hate doing it.
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  4. 12-03-2007 12:36 PM #4
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    well how have the blinds been playing? i'd raise and take the pot down there, the extra money will hood your stack up fat
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  5. 12-03-2007 01:02 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscheese
    would a flat call be the worst idea ever?

    I'm just curious.
    Yes. Fold, and it's not close.

    Edit: actually maybe it is close. I'm having a really tough time assigning the BB and SB a range, do they know how tight you should be shoving? Should they be calling wider though because of the huge blinds? Ugh.
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  6. 12-03-2007 01:34 PM #6
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    BB is screwed if he calls and loses, SB could take the hit but he has BB still to play. I suspect I push here.
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  7. 12-03-2007 01:35 PM #7
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    Wait is he all in with antes? That changes things a lot.
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  8. 12-03-2007 02:03 PM #8
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    He is, sorry.
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
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  9. 12-03-2007 04:07 PM #9
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    Sick spot. That said, I would shove it - the only situation where you finish 4th is that where you get called, UTG's random hand wins the main pot and SB or BB win the side pot. With blinds this huge you can't afford not to steal them.
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  10. 12-04-2007 01:38 AM #10
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    Just curious...lets say UTG actually had 500 chips and folds. Do you insta-muck AK/most all pairs?

    As played I think you have to shove. If one of the blinds pick up a hand, I still like my chances to get 3rd. A random hand (UTG) is in terrible shape against whatever the blinds are calling pushes with. The chances of bubbling should be pretty small
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