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    Default $100nl Blind Defense

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG+1 ($142.35)
    MP1 ($106)
    MP2 ($55.15)
    MP3 ($93)
    CO ($92)
    Button ($184.50)
    Hero ($112.30)
    BB ($213.30)
    UTG ($26.35)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 6.
    6 folds, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $10.5, 1 fold, Button folds.

    Final Pot: $7

    BB is ubernit 9/4 or something. NOTE BB IS NOT VILLAIN HERE.

    How high does villain's attempt to steal need to be for this, and what sort of bet sizing do you recommend here?
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    I like to have at least a little bit of a hand when I defend, like 75o or A3s, against such a nit I usually don´t fight at all from SB, b/c he´s a nit (obv) and BB is left to act.
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    xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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    How do you know villain is a nit? And you didn't really answer my question?

    Edit: So if villain had attempted to steal 100 times out of 100, you wouldn't defend here?
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    with villains stats if hes half good he should auto raise your blind.
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    sorry, misread that, took the raiser as the described nit.

    I´d like to see a attempt to steal >30 and to have a tight image. since you have more than 100BB behind I like a bigger raise to 12-13, to make implied odds look worse and keep him from calling with lower pp´s against which we´re far behind.
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    i would be more likely to do it if he has shown he will fold either pf or on the flop easily without a hand. i.e. he plays straightforward in 3bet pots, and has no reason to suspect you are defending.
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    Maybe wait till you have 65s or maybe just 65. I like range polarization when 3betting, but 62 isn't really smart polarization. But really it so often matters on the game flow so it doesn't really matter.
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    Ni Han sir.
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    Goddamn it's hard to get you people to answer a question sometimes.

    At what point does his attempt to steal % reach a number that it's profitable to 3-bet with ATC? Does this point exist?
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    wow... you just brought the saying 'any two' to a whole new level. You must have a good read on button to be able to make this sort of move with such garbage. I'm waiting for something we could work with.
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    You didn't explicitly ask ATC in the OP. Your move can be profitable vs somebody you wouldn't wanna 3bet with ATC. IMO, 3betting is largely a balancing act with game flow. If he's been raising a lot or you've been folding a lot then go ahead and 3bet ATC, but if you've been 3betting a lot and he's been folding a lot then you wanna 3bet real tight.

    If the aggro stealer knows you're aggro restealing then he's gonna aggro reresteal.

    This is partly why I like 3betting with a polarized range instead of balanced one. 3bet pots seem to be 'felt or fold', and 3betting medium-big hands can get you into a lot of tough spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew
    wow... you just brought the saying 'any two' to a whole new level. You must have a good read on button to be able to make this sort of move with such garbage. I'm waiting for something we could work with.
    button should auto-raise BBs blind anf fold ay flop bb takes unless he has a super strong hand.
    therefore he should open like 100% from his button, so spoon should 3 bet 75% or so here, actual hands are irrelevant, how buttons hand plays to a 3 bet is.
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    Why is button only concerning themselves with the BB? SB should be taken into consideration here as well. I mean, if button knew that sb was 3betting 75% of hands in this situation, button would probably not open.

    <---- devil's advocate because I see your point, and most buttons do not include multi level thinking in regards to sb's actions here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew
    Why is button only concerning themselves with the BB? SB should be taken into consideration here as well. I mean, if button knew that sb was 3betting 75% of hands in this situation, button would probably not open.

    <---- devil's advocate because I see your point, and most buttons do not include multi level thinking in regards to sb's actions here.
    assume spoon is 14/10 or something, and 3 bets every hand he ever plays, you should still open 100% from the button because spoon folds 85% and you lose the pot the rest of the time, forgetting teh times he 3 bets and you have a real hand.
    Its simple ranges for me, button wont be thinking on anything above the cards he has, and even if he opens 30% from the button, only 5% of his range can really call a 3bet, so that gives you an instant 3bet his button advantage.
    The only problem you have is how fast your opponent adapts knowing you'll 3bet every time he opens
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    tough to assume someone who 3bets everyhand they play is a 14/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    tough to assume someone who 3bets everyhand they play is a 14/10
    Quit being all omfg, it's just an example.

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