Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumTournament Poker

$16 - JJ vs push early

Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1

    Default $16 - JJ vs push early


    He was 20/20 over 10 hands.
    No real accurate reads.
    What range do you put him on? (guess)

    Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    MP2: t905
    CO: t1815
    BTN: t1375
    SB: t1290
    BB: t2130
    UTG: t1170
    UTG+1: t1460
    UTG+2: t1475
    Hero (MP1): t1880

    Pre Flop: Hero is MP1 with J J
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t60, 1 fold, Hero raises to t180, MP2 raises to t905 all in, folds, hero?
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
  2. #2
    Fold without know this villain well.

    He minraised and then shoved. That screams strength - he was hoping someone would reraise him. QQ+/AK.
    I run a training site...

    Check out strategy videos at GrinderSchool.com, from $10 / month.
  3. #3
    Just looking at it and without ICM I would say fold here. 10 hands really isn't anything to base off of, and if he is shoving over a raise and a reraise, I would probably say his range is pretty tight. Maybe something like {QQ+, AJs+, AJo+}.

    {JJ+,AJs+,AJo+} is the loosest he can be to make this call good imo (without doing ICM). So I think this is really marginal, but considering it is so early and you don't need to worry about losing the chips because you have a decent stack at the moment I cry and fold.
  4. #4
    At this blind level I don't always re-raise preflop with JJ, I usually just flat call and play for set or overpair value.

    As played, unless you have a read that MP2 is a maniac, I tend to fold here. Shoving over a raise and a re-raise shows tremendous strength.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    He minraised and then shoved. That screams strength - he was hoping someone would reraise him. QQ+/AK.
    I think you misread the HH, UTG+1 minraised, Hero re-raised and MP2 shoved over. Still doesn't change the answer though IMO.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    At this blind level I don't always re-raise preflop with JJ, I usually just flat call and play for set or overpair value.

    As played, unless you have a read that MP2 is a maniac, I tend to fold here. Shoving over a raise and a re-raise shows tremendous strength.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    He minraised and then shoved. That screams strength - he was hoping someone would reraise him. QQ+/AK.
    I think you misread the HH, UTG+1 minraised, Hero re-raised and MP2 shoved over. Still doesn't change the answer though IMO.
    If no min raise in front, would you open raise it?
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by mattiesmat
    If no min raise in front, would you open raise it?
    Every time. Actually since this is just a minraise I don't mind re-raising here because we aren't building a huge pot, and there is a risk that you get lots of callers after you if you just flat call.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    At this blind level I don't always re-raise preflop with JJ, I usually just flat call and play for set or overpair value.
    I dont like this line here, you have minraise before and 5 people left to act, unless someone reraises you will probably find yourself in 4 way pot, which is very tough to play for overpair value, I think you are losing a lot of value out of your JJ, I would reraise it anytime.

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    As played, unless you have a read that MP2 is a maniac, I tend to fold here. Shoving over a raise and a re-raise shows tremendous strength.
    Yep, villian is short stacked but not desperate yet, I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and fold here

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •