Qhigh FD Faceing Min Raise (6.50)

[DetroitHusling101]

am i out of line with my FD here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP1 (t1185)
MP2 (t2110)
CO (t818)
Button (t2390)
SB (t1312)
Hero (t2135)
UTG (t2275)
UTG+1 (t1275)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
5 folds, Button calls t150, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (t375) , , (2 players)
Hero bets t300, Button raises to t600, Hero raises to t1985,

Final Pot: t1575

[mattiesmat]

My first thought was yes, but maybe not.
Semi bluf betting on this flop, with very likely 14 outs is ok, unless you put him on on of those cards.
Then he min raises you and you have to get it in, because you are about 50/50 (with the chance of him having a set), there is alot of money in the pot and you even have some FE sometimes against donks who try to bust your bluff/bluff themselfs.

[taipan168]

I would rather open check this flop and C-R AI if he bets rather than lead this flop. If you check and he checks behind you get a free shot to make a hand, if he bets you can raise AI and maximise your fold equity (because opp's pot odds will be worse than if you lead the flop).

[DetroitHusling101]

I would rather open check this flop and C-R AI if he bets rather than lead this flop. If you check and he checks behind you get a free shot to make a hand, if he bets you can raise AI and maximise your fold equity (because opp's pot odds will be worse than if you lead the flop).

so in general you recommend going for a c/rai with a combo draw but not a made hand? usually i will go for the c/rai if the pots not heads up.

[taipan168]

I would rather open check this flop and C-R AI if he bets rather than lead this flop. If you check and he checks behind you get a free shot to make a hand, if he bets you can raise AI and maximise your fold equity (because opp's pot odds will be worse than if you lead the flop).

so in general you recommend going for a c/rai with a combo draw but not a made hand? usually i will go for the c/rai if the pots not heads up.

Yeah generally with a FD+2 overs or OESFD I usually tend to C-R AI when I'm first to act on the flop because a) you don't mind getting a free card if opp checks behind and b) whilst you're actually indifferent as to whether opp calls or folds (since both are good options) it's not such a bad thing to maximise your fold equity and take it down now.

[HXMpriest]

I think your play is perfect.

Betting the flop here is good, because the chance he folds here is big.
After his raise you have to go all in.
You can't fold cause you probably have 15 outs, which means over 50% chance to win here.
A call is bad because it will make you face a tough decision when there is no diamond on the turn. It also gives him a chance to get away when you make your flush on the turn.

Perfectly played

[kingnat]

My first reaction was the raise PF, but I agree with taipan that checking the flop is best.. What was your read on your opponent?...

[drmcboy]

I would rather open check this flop and C-R AI if he bets rather than lead this flop. If you check and he checks behind you BOTH get a free shot to make a hand, if he bets you can raise AI and maximise your fold equity (because opp's pot odds will be worse than if you lead the flop).

FYP

Getting a free card is not a good thing here unless he's slowplaying something, and most flops miss most hands. The turn is also really tough to play if you miss. And if you make your flush many hands that would have called a flop bet can now fold.

Unless you think he is a huge favorite to bluff with no hand I can't really see the value in checking. And he limped the button so assuming he'll play the rest of the hand aggresive seems a little off to me.

[taipan168]

Getting a free card is not a good thing here unless he's slowplaying something, and most flops miss most hands. The turn is also really tough to play if you miss. And if you make your flush many hands that would have called a flop bet can now fold.

Unless you think he is a huge favorite to bluff with no hand I can't really see the value in checking. And he limped the button so assuming he'll play the rest of the hand aggresive seems a little off to me.

Meh I don't mind leading here with a FD plus two overs, but with a relatively deep stack for this blind level I probably feel a bit better about making a hand of a sort before committing my chips. I definitely don't hate leading though.

[drmcboy]

I don't understand your post. If you like this flop better than Jx6s5s you have a huge leak in your game. We have a 'hand'.

[taipan168]

I don't understand your post. If you don't like this flop better than Jx6s5s you have a huge leak in your game. We have a 'hand'.

Isn't this what you mean?

Ugh as soon as I posted I knew I was wrong, unless has a set, two pair or overpair we are at least 50/50 to win here.

[drmcboy]

Right, and don't just focus on the fact we're a flip against a hand, focus that we are a bit to a lot ahead of nothing. Someone with no hand will fold to a bet here (and give up 30-50% equity in the pot) where as he may come with you when he catches on the turn.