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 Originally Posted by taipan168
It all depends on whether you think there is any chance he will fold if you shove over. You do know that if he had open shoved you would have to cry and fold, don't you?
If you shove over, he will need to call 2370 to see a pot of (100+200+400+1400+3545) = 5645 so he's getting 2.4 to 1 on the call. That said, if he calls and loses he's pretty much dead, so in a game I think I would shove over because even if there's a 5-10% chance that he folds, this becomes +EV.
I would have folded to a shove given the 3bb stack about to hit the blinds. I'd call there with probally JJ+.
I didn't "know" it was a fold to a push though until putting it through SNGEGT.
Glad this hand came up though , since it's given me a chance to see what i can call with here when theres a 3bb stack around and the other 3 are close to even on the bubble. If it was AKs i could have called a shove which i might have folded.
I did push over because even though he was getting good odds he might fold some hands since like you said he's dead if he loses.
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