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  1. #1

    Default Optimal play here:

    Raise to ???ish, flat, or All in and why?

    PokerStars Game #13951645917: Tournament #70817514, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/12/18 - 20:43:09 (ET)
    Table '70817514 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: terriers 2 (585 in chips)
    Seat 2: Lawesy (2615 in chips)
    Seat 3: oll00ll00llo (1365 in chips)
    Seat 4: dd417 (1585 in chips)
    Seat 5: 11p0wner (1415 in chips)
    Seat 7: naphilliy (2950 in chips)
    Seat 8: RajFaneen (1485 in chips)
    Seat 9: baztack (1500 in chips)
    naphilliy: posts small blind 25
    RajFaneen: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to 11p0wner [Ah Kh]
    baztack: folds
    terriers 2: raises 50 to 100
    Lawesy: folds
    oll00ll00llo: calls 100
    dd417: calls 100
    11p0wner??
  2. #2
    I push. We don't have much if any FE vs the min raiser , but with the 2 flat callers who will more than likely fold theres a lot of dead money in the pot. I don't really wanna play the hand 4way neither. I wanna see all 5 cards. Even without the flat callers i would push over the SS min-raiser obv.
  3. #3
    Shove to isolate the shorty because you are ahead of his range and way ahead of the flat-callers' ranges. Punish them for flat-calling!
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  4. #4
    I shove it too with all those dead chips in the pot.
  5. #5
    Yea what i figured at the time.
    Wasnt flatting and thought a raise to like 4-500 was pretty retarded so shoving it was.
    Anyone ever flat here? i did consider it for like a second...
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Geanooooo
    Anyone ever flat here? i did consider it for like a second...
    I am never ever flat calling here, you will see the flop 4+ way which even if you hit an A or K on the flop is not a great scenario. I wouldn't even flat call here with AA.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Geanooooo
    Anyone ever flat here? i did consider it for like a second...
    I am never ever flat calling here, you will see the flop 4+ way which even if you hit an A or K on the flop is not a great scenario. I wouldn't even flat call here with AA.
    do you shove AA or raise to like ~4-500ish?
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Geanooooo
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    I wouldn't even flat call here with AA.
    do you shove AA or raise to like ~4-500ish?
    I would raise to 450-500 with AA then get the rest of my chips in on the flop if called.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Geanooooo
    Anyone ever flat here? i did consider it for like a second...
    I am never ever flat calling here, you will see the flop 4+ way which even if you hit an A or K on the flop is not a great scenario. I wouldn't even flat call here with AA.
    do you shove AA or raise to like ~4-500ish?
  10. #10
    With AK I push, best result is to get the pot preflop.

    With AA I raise to 500 same as tai, and push pretty much any flop


  11. #11
    Yeah as Detroit said you wanna see all 5 cards with A-K here so shove it and watch the flat callers fold.

    the difference with A-A is that its a "made hand" and, as you know, is a monster PF so just raise as previously stated.

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