$ 5 - Flopped set - opponent calls any bet

[MightyMarc]

Since taipan invited me so kindly to post here, I would like to ask you what you would have done in this situation?

5th hand, no reads

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1630)
MP1 (t1385)
MP2 (t1305)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1500)
SB (t3210)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 6.
Hero calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, 3 folds, SB completes, BB raises to t80, Hero calls t60, MP1 calls t60, SB folds.

Flop: (t260) 2, 6, Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, MP1 folds, BB calls t120.

Turn: (t500) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t260, BB calls t260.

River: (t1020) K (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero ???

[taipan168]

Since opponent calls every bet, I would bet the flop and turn harder so you can try to get your chips in faster. I would bet 200 on the flop, then the pot would be 660 on the turn, you bet 450 or so allowing you to get the rest of your chips in on the river.

As played, I would call BB's bet. I usually don't give credit for a runner runner flush, but his line looks awfully suspicious. That said, I can't fold a set here, I would call getting better than 4:1 odds on the call. If you're wrong, you still have enough chips to come back given blinds are only 10/20.

[DetroitHusling101]

I bet about 180-200 on flop.
I bet about 350+ on the turn (in your case where pot is 500 , if it was me i would have bet more on flop making the turn pot larger)
And i shove over the river.
Looks like a blocking bet. I'm not giving him credit for the backdoor flush and i definitly don't have 45 in his range (a straight).
I think we lose value `in the long run if we just call instead of shove over.

[DetroitHusling101]

Since opponent calls every bet, I would bet the flop and turn harder so you can try to get your chips in faster. I would bet 200 on the flop, then the pot would be 660 on the turn, you bet 450 or so allowing you to get the rest of your chips in on the river.

As played, I would call BB's bet. I usually don't give credit for a runner runner flush, but his line looks awfully suspicious. That said, I can't fold a set here, I would call getting better than 4:1 odds on the call. If you're wrong, you still have enough chips to come back given blinds are only 10/20.

Looks like my river line was way off.

[taipan168]

Looks like my river line was way off.

Not necessarily, there is a real chance we do lose value by just calling, but against a LP calling station who called preflop, on the flop and on the turn and now comes to life on the river I have to give him credit for a hand.

[DetroitHusling101]

Looks like my river line was way off.

Not necessarily, there is a real chance we do lose value by just calling, but against a LP calling station who called preflop, on the flop and on the turn and now comes to life on the river I have to give him credit for a hand.

He raised pre. Not sure if that makes any difference , but he didn't "call preflop" he is the initial raiser. At first glance i didn't notice he was the preflop raiser either.

[drmcboy]

You're giving him spades? A6? This is an autoraise. You don't get to always tell me low BI players call with "all sorts of trash" and then smooth call here. He could even have two lower sets!

[taipan168]

You're giving him spades? A6? This is an autoraise. You don't get to always tell me low BI players call with "all sorts of trash" and then smooth call here. He could even have two lower sets!

True, but I think it's closer here whether to smooth call or shove over. That said, you're right that there are are whole bunch of hands that we beat, but I do worry when these LP players suddenly come to life on the river rather than just checking.

The thing is, I would have preferred to have bet more on the flop and turn such that we would get it AI on the river regardless.

[WildBobAA]

If opponent calls any bet, open shove the flop LDO

[mattiesmat]

If opponent calls any bet, open shove the flop LDO

Best line so far.

I like Taipans line, but I go broke on the river (raise) and cry.

[drmcboy]

As2s 1
As6s 1
QQ 3
KK 3

That's 8 hands and I think we're being really generous (esp KK which this does NOT look like) giving these an equal weight with:

KQ 9
22 3
33 3
= 15

Even with just top two plus the two sets we beat, the math says raise because he's never folding those hands. Add in AQ trying to get a value bet in against a lower PP or worse Q he is worried you will check behind and I am just not following why you don't want to raise here. Qx or some other random hand may not call, but we don't lose anything.

[taipan168]

You guys are probably right, shove the river is probably the best line against this opp, there are more hands that we beat that will call a shove than beat us at this point.

[MightyMarc]

Why I didnt want to raise?
Like taipan mentioned it somehow seemed to be suspicious. Didn't put villain on a flush but gave about 50% that he would show QQ or KK (other 50% to AQ, KQ )

Important for me was just to see, if it would have been ok to go broke. If a bunch of experienced players prefers to raise/push I think it is ok to try to double with trips even when there are some doubts.

Marc

P.S.: I called and opponent showed QQ