PT stats of 11k hands 25NL - any advice?

[Sup3rM4N]

I used to be an SnG player and have switched to 6max so this about my first 11k hands (missed about 2k hands b4 having PT). I two table so getting 11k hands took some time. I know its not that big of a sample but just want to know if I am heading in the right direction and what I should change.

My overall stat:


Stats by position:


Detailed summary:



I do not know how to properly use PT stats to my advantage. If you spot something that should be changed, please tell me how it should be changed as well. Any advice is welcomed. =)

[Ash256]

You're running fairly hot. I don't know the ins and outs of stats, but:-

- You should probably tighten up
- Stop limping UTG (apart from low PPs maybe sometimes)

[IowaSkinsFan]

keep winning 9ptbb

[bode]

apart from limping UTG WAY WAY WAY too much it looks fine.

[Silly String]

Thinly veiled brag?

You're doing fine man. I would defend your blinds less, unless you are extremely good postflop. As someone else said, I would limp less/play less hands in UTG/EP. I would also tighten up just a bit unless you have a serious postflop advantage, but coming from SNG's your post flop skill probably is not that practiced. Good luck on your next 11K hands.

[Chopper]

please update your post after variance sets in. you are running well, and its hard to criticize anyone running over 9 ptbb/100 no matter their stats.

if variance never sets in, start teaching us how to sustain this.

btw, silly, what does it say about me when i notice your avatar before reading your comment?

[jackvance]

Yeah why are u asking for advice after winning 9ptBB/100.. just keep doing what you are doing.

[Ash256]

Yeah why are u asking for advice after winning 9ptBB/100..

So we can uncover his leaks, like playing 18/9 UTG!


OP, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you winrate settles down at 4-5 ptbb

[Sup3rM4N]

Thinly veiled brag?

No it is not. I didn't even know BB/100 hands is what I should be using to calculate how I am doing. I was doing profit/1k hands (have no reason why).

Ash: Since you said that I am running hot, I should not be expecting results like this? 4-5BB/100hands is more standard im guessing even at 25NL since there are some crazy ppl there?

I posted these stats to help the tons of mistakes I make. The only reason I even have 9BB/100 hand is because of the crazy players that sometimes emerge (especially in the weekend) and stack people off. I dont think it requires much skill to win like that but what I am trying to improve is my game against the regs there. I have lost many many buy-ins because of silly mistakes and thought these stats would identify some of my problems but I guess because of the maniacs that stack me and other people, it throws off the stats. I want to go beyond just finding a maniac fish and getting stacked from him/her but I guess these stats cant really help much with that.

[Pelion]

you look a pretty loose-passive UTG but Id keep doing what ur doing until ur winrate drops. It certainly seems to be working so far.

[Ash256]

Thinly veiled brag?

Ash: Since you said that I am running hot, I should not be expecting results like this? 4-5BB/100hands is more standard im guessing even at 25NL since there are some crazy ppl there?

Your W$@SD is very high, I hear it normally settles at about 49% unless you're terribad.

I'm not saying 4-5 is what you should expect, but I'm saying that you shouldn't beat yourself up/tilt if it drops to that area.

www.pokerevsoftware.com

Try posting some screenies from that, although I don't know if it'll be compatible with wherever you play.

[Sup3rM4N]

Thanks for the responses.

18/9 is bad UTG im guessing.

UTG and UTG+1, what should my ranges to open(AJ+, KQs+ TT+?) and limping be (any PP)?

KJ, KJs, QJ, and QJs..from EP are these all auto folds? or do I play the big SC as drawing hands?

Currently this is what my play is from EP:
AA-TT, AT-AK, KQs - I open with
22-99, SC 7 and higher - up to QJs, QJo, KJo - I limp with and call one raise....if I dont hit atleast two pairs on the flop I check/fold....Big leak? What should I change in my thinking about this?

[Chopper]

your range should be "whatever works." you will get a lot of advice from both TAGgy and LAGgy players here....mostly tighter players.

my recommendation would be not to play hands from EP that are easily dominated. (KJ, QT, A-low)

truthfully, you just want to be about 1/2 the numbers you run from the button. if you run 40/20, then cut it down to about 20/10. but UTG, you should be more like 20/15 in this example.

and, btw, Ash knows more than i do, but i have heard your W$SD should be low 50's.

[Ash256]

Thanks for the responses.

18/9 is bad UTG im guessing.

UTG and UTG+1, what should my ranges to open(AJ+, KQs+ TT+?) and limping be (any PP)?

KJ, KJs, QJ, and QJs..from EP are these all auto folds? or do I play the big SC as drawing hands?

Currently this is what my play is from EP:
AA-TT, AT-AK, KQs - I open with
22-99, SC 7 and higher - up to QJs, QJo, KJo - I limp with and call one raise....if I dont hit atleast two pairs on the flop I check/fold....Big leak? What should I change in my thinking about this?

You should only limp PPs UTG if your opponents are monkeys and you think you'll bluff too much postflop.

I found my game got a lot better when I cut my UTG range to (raising only) 22-AA, AQ, AK. You can possibly raise KQs and AJ if your opponents are loose calling stations. Definitely don't limpcall QJ and KJ, that really sucks. Suited connectors should be played in position only.

[meeloche]

I found my game got a lot better when I cut my UTG range to (raising only) 22-AA, AQ, AK. You can possibly raise KQs and AJ if your opponents are loose calling stations. Definitely don't limpcall QJ and KJ, that really sucks. Suited connectors should be played in position only.

As did mine. If your interested sauce made a good strategy guide to help your positional play. You might be interested in reading this:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ea-t58095.html

[Sup3rM4N]

I found my game got a lot better when I cut my UTG range to (raising only) 22-AA, AQ, AK. You can possibly raise KQs and AJ if your opponents are loose calling stations. Definitely don't limpcall QJ and KJ, that really sucks. Suited connectors should be played in position only.

How come it is beneficial to open raise with small PP from EP? Shouldn't I try to see a flop as cheaply as possible to try and make a set?

If I raise EP with small-mid PP, most times I will get a caller from LP and if I miss the flop what do I do? C-bet, check-fold turn if turn is a blank?

If I get reraised from LP when I open raise small PP from EP, without any reads I certainly put villain on higher PP or AK/AQs atleast. Then do I call his 3-bet and just check fold flop if I miss? Would it not have been cheaper to limp-call his raise PF and see if I hit a set?

Those are just my thoughts but I would def. like to hear urs and ur reasoning for opening small-mid PP's from EP Ash.

[EzDuzIt]

Your W$@SD is very high, I hear it normally settles at about 49% unless you're terribad.

no, your w$@sd shouldnt be under 50% unless you play a really aggressive style like having more of a 50% wwsf. it also depends on how often you go to showdown. his doesnt look that abnormal with his other stats, hes probably on a little bit of a heater judging by his overall stats. pokerev might not say that either, could just be getting a lot of really profitable situations.

[meeloche]

How come it is beneficial to open raise with small PP from EP? Shouldn't I try to see a flop as cheaply as possible to try and make a set?

My personal opinion is to balance your utg range. If your only raising qq+ and AK utg you become very easy to play against from that position. Plus when you do flop a set you have disguised your hand well. I'm not advocating against seeing cheap flops with low pp but in six max don't have to worry about having 8 people left to act when you're utg. At micro stakes i think it's really personal preference if you raise them or not. You'd be surprised though how many times you can take down the pot post flop with a c bet against the right players. Plus it's easy to put you on a limping range. As an example if you're running like 25/9 I know you're not raising low pp and sc's from any position so you become easy to play against post flop. Where as if you're running say 20/17 there are so many more hands that you could have in a raised pot.

If I raise EP with small-mid PP, most times I will get a caller from LP and if I miss the flop what do I do? C-bet, check-fold turn if turn is a blank?

Usually yes, once you're post flop skills improve and you're starting to put people on ranges you can try the odd double barrel, but 90% of the time this is what I do.

If I get reraised from LP when I open raise small PP from EP, without any reads I certainly put villain on higher PP or AK/AQs atleast. Then do I call his 3-bet and just check fold flop if I miss? Would it not have been cheaper to limp-call his raise PF and see if I hit a set?

I never call 3 bets with low pp's as they don't play well against the usually super tight 3 betting range of micro stakes players.

Again though for micro stakes it really doesn't matter because 99% of the opponents you play aren't paying attention to anything and could careless what you're doing because all they're doing is playing their cards. I would recommend trying it for a session though and see how it goes. Theres never anything wrong with experimenting with more post flop play as it will only make you a better player.

[griffey24]

I haven't read other posts yet, so sorry if this is repetitive.

Your winrate is good (though over small sample) so hopefully you can sustain it.

I'd say you're limping too much UTG, and just limping too much in general instead of raising.

Also your aggression factor seems somewhat low, but if its working for you thats good!

[bbqsquirrel]

You're just running hot. When I first moved to NL50 6m I ran @ a godly 8.5 PTBB over 28k hands. Of course I came back down to earth soon after (like 3.5 PTBB over 75k hands).

I say try tidy up your PF game. 26/13 isn't good enough.

[gabe]

you are playing your blinds too much. as you move up this is gonnakill you.