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  1. #1
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    Default Waiting for a flush in 5.5 turbo

    Seat 1: askari58 ($741 in chips)
    Seat 2: x wolf1979 ($1,410 in chips)
    Seat 3: Arol X ($2,170 in chips)
    Seat 4: Lucifer200 ($1,569 in chips)
    Seat 6: phanoumars ($670 in chips)
    Seat 7: SouLySoRc ($2,320 in chips)
    Seat 8: rasecprivat ($2,845 in chips)
    Seat 9: 08nico1993 ($1,885 in chips)
    Seat 10: Hero ($1,390 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    Hero posts blind ($25), askari58 posts blind ($50).

    PRE-FLOP
    x wolf1979 folds, Arol X calls $50, Lucifer200 calls $50, phanoumars calls $50, SouLySoRc folds, rasecprivat folds, 08nico1993 calls $50, Hero calls $25, askari58 checks.

    FLOP [board cards: 8S,QC,5C ]
    Hero checks, askari58 checks, Arol X checks, Lucifer200 bets $50, phanoumars bets $275, 08nico1993 calls $275, Hero calls $275, askari58 folds, Arol X folds, Lucifer200 calls $225.

    TURN [board cards: 8S,QC,5C,KD ]
    Hero checks, Lucifer200 bets $50, phanoumars bets $345 and is all-in, 08nico1993 folds, Hero calls $345, Lucifer200 calls $295.

    RIVER [board cards: 8S,QC,5C,KD,9S ]
    Hero checks, Lucifer200 checks.

    Ok my hand is 7C,TC and i have two specific questions here: 1. Should I have completed the SB with that hand and 2. Should I have kept drawing to flush as I did?
  2. #2
    Short answer: Preflop is fine, I would fold the flop however.

    Long answer:

    Preflop: Getting 11:1 on the preflop call with a hand that has some potential, I think completing is fine. Only commit a lot of chips if you flop two pair or better or a monster draw though (OESFD, FD + gutshot, FD + pair, etc).

    Flop: I would fold the check/flop for a few reasons:
    a) You do not close the action, so if any of the players behind you re-raise you will have to fold and have burned 275 chips for nothing
    b) You are not drawing to the nut flush, so even if you do hit your flush there is a possibility that somebody will have made a bigger flush meaning you lose your whole stack
    c) Even if your flush will make the best hand, you do not have correct odds to call. There are 900 chips in the pot when it gets to you and you have to call 275, that is 3.27 to 1 odds. With 9 outs to the flush you are about 4.5 to 1 against to hit on the turn. You cannot assume that you will not face another bet on the turn since phanoumars showed strength by raising over a limper. Admittedly there are some implied odds too here, but IMO they are counterbalanced by the fact that you are not drawing to the nuts.

    As played, I would fold the turn, again you do not have correct odds to chase.

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