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QQ on a AAx flop (6.50)

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  1. 01-02-2008 02:57 PM #1
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    Default QQ on a AAx flop (6.50)

    Is cbetting here a leak?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    Hero (t1490)
    UTG+1 (t1620)
    MP1 (t1410)
    MP2 (t1470)
    CO (t1470)
    Button (t1465)
    SB (t2985)
    BB (t1590)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
    Hero raises to t120, UTG+1 calls t120, MP1 calls t120, 5 folds.

    Flop: (t405) , , (3 players)
    Hero bets t300, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to t600, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t1005
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-63115.htm

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  2. 01-02-2008 04:51 PM #2
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    I don't even really think that this is a c-bet, it's partially a value bet too. The fact that there are two aces on the flop reduces the chance that anybody else has one so I'm happy to bet the flop. I'd probably make it 250 rather than 300 though, if nobody has an A they'll fold to 250 just as much as 300.

    Once you get raised, time to GTFO obv.
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  3. 01-02-2008 07:07 PM #3
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    Is it really time TGTFO?
    I my experience people do this as well with 4x + 44-QQ.
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
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  4. 01-02-2008 07:45 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattiesmat
    Is it really time TGTFO?
    I my experience people do this as well with 4x + 44-QQ.
    You could be right, but a) will MP1 really put in half his remaining stack without an A? and b) the fact that there were two preflop callers worries me, if there was just one I would probably shove over.
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  5. 01-03-2008 07:10 AM #5
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    I agree with taipan on this, I mean there were two callers to his bet PF, one folds to his bet on the flop, the other one raises him for 1/2 his stack + no one's in a hurry yet (!!). That should ring the alarm bells, shouldn't it?

    I also want to say about your original question, I don't think poker decisions should be seen so "binary" (e.g. Is it a leak or not?). It's more like a fluid concept, I guess. HOW good or how bad is a decision is, is the important thing. There are no absolutes. I think you made a good choice getting out, even though it's a costly one. But there will be other opportunities.
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  6. 01-03-2008 08:14 AM #6
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    I think I am checking this flop, with 2 callers it is very possible one of them have an A, add the fact that you are OOP and I think it is better to take the safe route

    If you are called on the flop what was your plan ?


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