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  1. #1

    Default Somebody want to check my tourny play? $5.50

    I finished an exciting tournament againts many good players (only two players had a -EV according to Sharkscope). Took 2nd, but would like the experts here to help me critique my play.

    While I need help on all my play if somebody would check hands 19, 26, and all my heads up play, it would be most helpful.

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/Online-...ment-2479.html
  2. #2
    Raise a little more on your first aces hand.

    Why raise AT there out of pos for so few chips? Chips are valuable mate, hold on to them and let the fish flounder in shallow water.

    JTs there is an ok call, speculatin, but considering your recent aggression it's probably a good idea to just fold it here.

    Hands 5-6
    Don't bet out when you hit bottom pair off your big blind, that's a leak.

    Betting bottom pair again... position you must learn!

    Hand 7 is pretty good, I might have just punched it on the turn as seeing the river is hugely -ev if a flush card (not Th) comes but you might get a high pair on a str8flush draw to follow you in without odds cuz you're repping 2-pair or something.

    8 - Aggression seems to be working for you.

    9 - awkward spot there, good job not risking alot of money

    skipping down...

    19 - Wow way to lay on the beat... STRONGLY consider folding there, his range is MAYBE JJ, QQ-AA and MAYBE AKs, you're getting beat very solidly by almost all of the above, and as far as I can he was pretty tight.

    26 - A reasonable call, your bet looks like a steal which you have a habit of making.

    29 - why not play back with 77? That's a beast of a hand 3-handed when you're big stack, push someone around.

    33 - that check of his on the turn stinks like hell, in hindsight I put him on a jack, but I think a push there scares him off more often than not unless he has an ace, but if he has you beat then no outs. Tough to play.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper
    i swear sometimes i look in the mirror, point at that douchebag, and say, "pwned!!"
  3. #3
    Hand 1: No need for FPS at the $5 SNG's , just raise it up to begin with , i'd make it 80-100 Preflop. After you got what you wanted (a raise ahead) make it like 180-200 to go.
    On the flop bet something like 180-200 as played (would be more if you raised more PF obv , but as played) No need to get into a min-raise war neither after he re raises you raise it up to something like 600-700.
    Hand 2: Fold
    Hand 4: I would fold. I will limp along if theres at least 2 limpers with speculative hands like this.
    Hand 5: I think i just check/fold flop.
    Hand 6: Same as 5 , i don't mind betting with middle pair but meh , i think it's a waste. Def slow down after he calls flop , no need to bet turn , i would c/f turn.
    Hand 7: I would fold preflop unless there were 2 limpers in already , than i limp along. I raise more on the flop too , you need to stop that minraise stuff! seriously!
    Hand 9: Im not betting the turn , im check/folding this hand. Def not betting the river , and fold after he raises you , were you hoping he had the 6 high flush?
    Hand 11: I fold as played I'm not sure why you bet flop or river. If i did misclick and limp i would be c/folding the flop.
    Hand 12: Lvl 3 (25/50) The standard raise is 3xbb (150).
    Hand 13: I don't mind but make a real raise (150).
    Hand 14: Im not even completing with this.
    Hand 16: Make it 250-300 @ 50/100 blinds. I'm not sure if I would be raising 8's here , if it's been a tighter table than yeah but if theres been multiple callers to preflop raises since this level started or during 25/50 i think i just dump it. We have a nice stack though so it's not too bad. 99+AJ+ I would raise UTG at 50/100.
    Hand 17: Enough with the miniraises , my standard raise is 2.5xbb (250) , anything from 2.5x-3x seems standard.
    Hand 18: I don't mind this from the CO but i would make your raises to 2.5xbb (375) at this level especially , since if we do see a flop cbetting will be a lot less expensive.
    Hand 19: I typically just shove over his raise (or i guess u could make it 900??). NO MORE MINIRAISES.
    Hand 20: At 100/200 No ante i would raise 2.5xbb (250)
    Hand 21: I just fold. Both the blinds have about 10bb so if your gonna play a hand here i would just shove instead of raise/fold , but i would just fold this hand.
    Hand 23: Once again , NO MORE MINIRAISES (sorry to keep repeating myself but hopefully this will quit this habit of yours) , flop i would definitly bet , but something more around 2/3 the pot. I'm not positive what's in the pot but I'm pretty sure you overbet the pot.
    Hand 26: Don't raise , SHOVE.... When the stacks in front of you are all 10-11bbs or LESS than that is OUR effective stack. With 10-11bbs or less we should be shoving not raising. I'm definitly shoving this hand.
    Hand 27: Just SHOVE ... kinda like hand 26

    Maybe I'll look through the rest of the shorthanded later. I didn't look at any of the hands you folded neither so you might have missed some pushes. Hopefully some others will reply to give insight on whatever me or the poster above me did not cover.

    In general i think you need to work on bet sizing and when it's time to get into push/fold mode.
    Your limping a few too many hands early without enough people in behind (for my standards at least)
    I like your agressiviness.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Technooo
    19 - Wow way to lay on the beat... STRONGLY consider folding there, his range is MAYBE JJ, QQ-AA and MAYBE AKs, you're getting beat very solidly by almost all of the above, and as far as I can he was pretty tight.
    6 handed in a 5.50 SNG I would not recommend laying down queens. After his initial raise i would have more than likely pushed all in (or raise to 900 , and definitly wouldnt fold after investing 1/3 of my stack). I mean I'm sure there situations where laying queens preflop is the right case (EX: super heavy action in front , higher stake games...) , but this is definitly not one of them , and i havn't seen one yet in over 1500 SNG's played at the 6.50 level. Not to say i havn't run into AA/KK more times than i would like to , but unless you know the player and know he is very tight (i still dont think i would do it) i don't think it's possible to narrow someones range to where folding QQ is the right move. 6 handed even the nits are re raising JJ and AK here.

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 47.366% 45.79% 01.58% 27440794 945878.00 { QdQh }
    Hand 1: 52.634% 51.06% 01.58% 30598090 945878.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

    And that's about as tight as it gets IMO.
  5. #5
    Since the major issue i seen is your preflop betsizing (raising different amounts depending on what kinda of hand you have) , I'll give a little guideling to at least how i do things , since im not sure if theres anything in the digest about pre flop raise sizing.
    With SNG's i don't think there is any reason to vary preflop raises. In cash there is a good arguement because certain hands have certain objectives post flop and want a certain amount of money in the pot depending on your holding (stack to pot ratio) , but with SNG's being such a short stack game in nature i don't think it applies.

    This is the amount i would raise preflop , with any holding i plan on raising. Based on stars structure.
    1 (10/20) - 80-100.(4-5xbb) Some prefer 80 so to not bloat the pot and it makes cbetting cheaper.
    2 (15/30) 120 (4xbb)
    3 (25/50) 150 (3xbb)
    4 (50/100) 250 (2.5xbb)
    5 (75/150) 375 (2.5xbb)
    6 (100/200) 500 (2.5xbb)
    7 (100/200 25 ante) 600 (3xbb)
    8 Well once your at 200/400 must likely your only move is all in. In the event that you do raise usually tend to use the "min-raise" or about 900-1000 here , but it's rare that you will be standard raising at 200/400.

    Keep in mind if you have under 13bbs we are looking to open shove (push all in) with a hand opposed to standard raising.

    In the event that there are limpers in front of you when you intend to raise , than add 1 BB for each of them. For example: You have AA in the CO @ LEVEL 2 Blinds , there are 2 limpers in front , i would make it 180 to go (120+30+30).
    The above seems mainly true Level 1 through 3.
    Once you get passed that i guess it's more of a judgement call if you plan on raising with a limper already in. More times than not if there a limper at say 75/150 our move will be all in , but if we are deep enough than i might make it something like 400. Start to think in terms of your effective stack though. Not just our own stack size.
    EXAMPLE:
    It's 75/150 .. we doubled up early and have a nice 3k stack.
    Were on the BU w/ any hand within our raising range.
    All folds to the CO who limps (off a 1500 stack)
    SB and BB all have 1500 or less.
    We would not standard raise here we would just shove , because our effective stack is 10bb.
    So in a nutshell effective stack = the stack of the people left to act/limpers.
  6. #6
    I agree with Detroit's review. Some additional comments:

    - Generally, I think you are playing too loose preflop. Detroit covered those situations well.
    - Don't minraise preflop, this is pointless. Detroit covered the issue well.
    - Don't minbet postflop, this is absolutely pointless.
    - Whenever it's folded to you in the SB and the BB has <10x BB left, it is often +EV to shove any two cards.
    - Whenever effective stacks are <10x BB (ie. the stacks of the players left to act) just shove it rather than standard raising.

    Hand 11 is spew. Don't do this! What's the point of minbetting the flop and river?

    4 9 SB (M = 11.20; f+f+f+f+F) (between 17 and 18) - if the BB has been tight I would shove it here

    Hand 18 (A9o) - I would not raise over the limper here. Detroit did you see that UTG limped?

    Hand 19 (QQ) - I agree, 900 to go or shove it.

    8 J SB (M = 17.38; f+f+f+f+F) (between 19 and 20) - I would probably shove this if opp has <10x BB.

    A 3 BU (M = 17.72; f+f+F) (between 20 and 21) - I probably standard raise this one from the button

    On the shorthanded play that Detroit did not get to:

    28. 42o - I bet the flop with your OESD after opp checks behind.

    29. A4s - don't minraise, shove it. Opps' stacks are all well under 10x BB.

    7 7 SB (M = 13.38; p+F) (between 29 and 30) - I probably shove over after opp shoves, 77 plays very well in this spot.

    31. A5o - just shove it, don't standard raise

    33. 76s - I would raise it preflop rather than limping. As played, I really do not like the flop overbet with nothing. Just check and see what happens.

    35. 83o - I would raise or fold this, probably just fold.

    36. J9o - up to the river is fine, but I don't minraise on the river, I just flat call opp's river bet.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168

    Hand 18 (A9o) - I would not raise over the limper here. Detroit did you see that UTG limped?
    Nope didn't notice the limper. Super easy fold w/ a limper. OP thank this man for the quality control.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Nope didn't notice the limper. Super easy fold w/ a limper. OP thank this man for the quality control.
    Thanks for the quality control Taipan. Thanks to all of you for the wonderful advice.

    So I need to work on picking better starting hands, and on getting my bet sizes right. Looks like I also need to pay more attention as to when my opponents M is <10bb , and then exploit them when it is.

    I'm also going to try to play the group event this Wednesday. The way I play at least you'll have a good chance to get paid for your advice here/

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