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    Default 2 Hands (6.50)

    Hand 1: Line check? All look ok?
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO (t1810)
    Button (t1490)
    SB (t1200)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    Hero (t1500)
    MP2 (t1500)
    MP3 (t1500)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6.
    2 folds, Hero calls t20, 2 folds, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t80) T, 9, 9 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

    Turn: (t80) 6 (4 players)
    SB bets t100, BB folds, Hero calls t100, CO calls t100.

    River: (t380) 7 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t260, CO raises to t660, SB folds, Hero raises to t1380, CO calls t720.

    Final Pot: t3140


    Hand 2: What to do? Push or fold? If both our draws are good we have a lot of equity. Hell we could be ahead. Villian limped UTG , he has loose stats (finally got a free HUD program) but can't remember exact stats.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    BB (t1375)
    UTG (t4028)
    MP1 (t955)
    MP2 (t2562)
    CO (t1395)
    Hero (t1390)
    SB (t1795)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
    UTG calls t50, 3 folds, Hero calls t50, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t200) , , (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t150, HERO
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    Hand 2: OESFD is a monster hand. Theres no way in hell you can fold this. I get my chips in somehow. I wish the pot was a bit bigger so a push didnt look so overboard, but I probably just go with that.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Hand 1 (66) - I am tempted to raise the turn to 250 or so. With three opps in the hand and SB overbetting the pot you'll get called. Raising the turn sets you up to get all your chips in on the river. You'd be bummed if they just called your 260 bet on the river.

    Hand 2 (TT) - I am torn between shoving it right now and raising to 450 then getting my chips in on the turn. I probably lean towards shoving right now because if we raise, get called and the turn bricks we have lost value (and probably have to get our chips in on the turn regardless).
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    Hand 1 Turn: Shouldn't you bet? It puts the CO in an uncomfortable sandwitch situation where even if he calls he still can't be sure if he'll have to put more money in the pot. Also gives him the wrong odds to draw to a possible flush. I'm still learning but I raise to 200 here.
    River: I check here. Three 9 or a flush or a straigh will call you here because they know they have a great hand, most other hands will fold except for maybe a pair of 10.

    Hand 2: Same thing, I raise to give those drawing to a flush negative odds. Also 17 outs twice will beat any 2 pair. I'd raise to 300. UTG seems to have been lucky this tourny so far (at least if he is loose) so for all you know he's playing with A8s (not diamonds) and thinks he has a great hand.

    I've also been using Sharkscope during my tourneys. It seems to help a lot. If UTG was a losing player or just starting out, then it is possible he's betting a lot with a little hand. If he is a winning player watch out. They only tend to put thier money in the pot during the early phases of a tourny when they know they have something.

    Of course if you lose hand 2 your now in a shove fold situation for a while.

    WARNING: This is just my take on the whole thing. I'm still a NOOB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonaparte
    Hand 1....River: I check here. Three 9 or a flush or a straigh will call you here because they know they have a great hand, most other hands will fold except for maybe a pair of 10.
    Why would you check here? Unless somebody has TT, T9, 99, 77, T 8 or 96/97 (which are both unlikely) you have the best hand. Never check the river with a hand that is likely to be best! 9x and a flush call your bet every time here, checking loses a lot of value.

    Quote Originally Posted by bonaparte
    Hand 2: Same thing, I raise to give those drawing to a flush negative odds. Also 17 outs twice will beat any 2 pair. I'd raise to 300. UTG seems to have been lucky this tourny so far (at least if he is loose) so for all you know he's playing with A8s (not diamonds) and thinks he has a great hand.
    Minraise is no good here. Assuming we need to improve, part of the value of having a monster draw is the chance that opp will fold. If I flopped the non-vulnerable nuts or close to the nuts (say an ace high flush or Q T) I might minraise since I have a lock hand, but if we raise and get called we lose value if we miss the turn.

    The reason I suggested pushing was that I don't much care whether opp calls or folds to the push but I really want to either get all my chips in on the flop or win the pot uncontested on the flop.
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    Hand one we have a full house, not a set. We beat a LOT of hands that call our river bet.


    Hand 2, agree with Taipan. Thats why I lean towards a push. If called we want to see both of the next two cards to hit our draw. If we raise and miss turn, we're in an ugly situation where with one card to go our odds of hitting are much lower.
    Just dipping my toes back in.

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