once again..thanks a bunch guys....lets recap here......a flush draw is roughly 4to1 with 1 card coming,2to1 if you are put all in on flop..open ended straight is 5 to 1 and 2.5 to 1 respectively......inside straight approsx12 to 1 and 6 to 1......and as long as i am not all in on flop,of i get good odds on flop,and then the guy gets friskie and lays me...lets say only 2 to 1 pot odds on turn,then the proper play would be to fold.from what ive seen...looks like you will get to draw alot on flop and get shut out on turn....i know this doesnt take into account any implied odds...thanks again folks![]()