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    Default $16 - zillion outs, what to do?

    How is preflop and the first check on the flop and what to do now?
    Also can you please explain why you prefer the action you chose?

    Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    MP2: t1500
    CO: t1490
    BTN: t1460
    Hero (SB): t1480
    BB: t1500
    UTG: t1530
    UTG+1: t1500
    UTG+2: t1500
    MP1: t1540

    Pre Flop: Hero is SB with Q A
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, 2 folds, BTN calls t20, Hero calls t10, BB checks

    Flop: (t100) K 2 T (5 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t100, MP1 calls t100, BTN folds, Hero ??
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
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    I also just complete here with AQ and this many callers. I don't really want to raise 4xbb+1 for every limper and bloat the pot , meaning if we whiff and decide to cbet it will also be a nice chunk of our stack + most importantly we are OOP.
    Flop I'm not really sure what to do. I don't think there's enough in the pot to shove now , and i suck at -playing draws when i'm not shoving over completly. Not sure how much to raise but i guess raise enough to open shove the turn?
    I guess we could take the passive approach and call , since we are getting 3:1....but i hate being passive with draws so meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    raise enough to open shove the turn
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    I raise pre. There is no rule that says it has to be 4xbb+1 just enough that you feel there's good amounts of fold equity to narrow the field. You'll be crushing their limp/calling range anyways. If they all fold, fine. If you get a caller then you can usually take it down on the flop. If he calls and this is your flop then great again as you can outdraw him.
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    Preflop - Agree with completing. AQo is not a hand I want to be playing big pots with out of position early in tournaments. Nothing wrong with completing and proceeding with caution on the flop.

    Flop - Against fewer players I like leading out of position. With 5 people in the hand its very unlikely that you'll get all folds so checking for a free card seems better. I think it comes down to whether or not you think you can get Kx to fold. My initial feeling was to just call but I can understand the argument for check raising to 400. The problem with calling is that you don't have much implied odds (Kx will have a hard time putting more chips in if theres a heart or an ace on the turn/river)

    conclusion: i dont know

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