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  1. #1

    Default $16 - QQ facing reraise pre

    Shove over pre or call and c/r most flops?
    I know the 2nd is cheaper and safer, but which is better and why?
    No reads yet.

    Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    UTG: t1290
    UTG+1: t1490
    Hero (UTG+2): t1435
    MP1: t1600
    MP2: t1460
    CO: t1670
    BTN: t1485
    SB: t1570
    BB: t1500

    Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q Q
    UTG calls t20, 1 fold, Hero raises to t105, MP1 raises to t240, 6 folds, Hero ??
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
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    I shove this pre. I think he can call with worse. If we just call and we hit a good flop he probably won't stack off with worse.
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    You don't want to push here unless MP1 is a known fish, in which case it is a value push.

    Calling is not so good either because you are not likely to hit the flop and will be oop against the raiser, unless you are already planning a cockblocking stop n go bet on any flop with no A or K.

    Folding seems weak. Weak play, while not ideal is often the least harmful this early in the sng.
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    i would at least call, at this level this doesnt necesary mean AA or KK. U could also be up against TT,JJ or AK. Call an see want he does, if he leads out big or pushes on a dry flop (no A,K) u could have the best hand. I wouldnt fold unless I would know this could guy (u said u have no read)
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    Yeah more I think of it I like call>raise>fold to be honest. Just won't expect to win a large pot but that's alright.
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    I would Sharkscope this guy, if he's a big loser then instashove over, if he's a solid winner then I guess call, see a flop and go broke if all undercards.

    Assuming he is re-raising with JJ+, AK then on an undercard flop you are ahead of JJ and AK (22 hands), tie with QQ (1 hand) and are way behind AA and KK (12 hands).
  7. #7
    Against an unknown with no reads, Id probably take the safer route and call his raise and get it on favourable flops.
    I dont really like shoving over here as I cant see many people calling with something we dominate unless hes a big tard.

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