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  1. #1

    Default $16 - cursed KK, 3rd heart, lead out?

    Lead out and call a shove on turn?
    He was 30/9 btw.

    Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 6 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    BTN: t1565
    Hero (SB): t3170
    BB: t2110
    UTG: t3170
    MP: t3420
    CO: t65

    Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K K
    4 folds, Hero raises to t250, BB calls t150

    Flop: (t500) 9 3 T (2 players)
    Hero bets t350, BB calls t350

    Turn: (t1200) 6 (2 players)
    Hero ??
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  2. #2
    That's a mighty stiff bet to call with a flush draw... I don't see it. I probably check the turn, and call his bluff. I f he checks behind, you'll get a free card to your 4-flush. If you shove, you're likely only getting called if you're beat, I think... but He'll bluff with a much wider range... I think your value is in checking.

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  3. #3
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    Please tell me you sometimes get KK and the hand goes well .
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  4. #4
    don't fold, anything else seems OK to me. If you check he'll bet a ton of hands you beat, or if he checks behind he'll call a lot of rivers.
  5. #5
    Considering stack sizes and the fact that opp is loose, I would make it 300 preflop rather than 250. Happy to build a pot here when I'm 99.5% ahead preflop.

    On the flop, your bet is good, and I would bet like 800 on the turn and call a shove. C-R the turn would also be fine if opp is aggressive postflop, but it doesn't sound like it.

    I'm not really sure what you are so scared of here with an overpair and the second nut flush draw.
  6. #6
    Yep, bet about 2/3 pot and call a shove,


  7. #7
    u lose value by checking the turn, ur only beat if e flopped a set (only TT is really likely) or has AA, or Ax hearts (dont think he he call with others suited cards) , everything is very likely and I think 90% of the time ur ahead. If he got AA/set u have to pay him. But I see a lot players pay u off with AhT,JJ,QQ or sothing else that u have beat.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    I'm not really sure what you are so scared of here with an overpair and the second nut flush draw.
    Jh5h
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by mattiesmat
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    I'm not really sure what you are so scared of here with an overpair and the second nut flush draw.
    Jh5h
    Ranges, ranges, ranges! You're ahead of his range on the turn. If the guy is that much of a calling station you should have raised more preflop and bet closer to full pot on the flop, he calls you preflop and on the flop with SO many hands you beat, you can't automatically assume he was drawing to the flush.

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