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  1. #1

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    1)

    Villain runs around 13/11 and has raised me off of at least 1, maybe 2 hands earlier but those were HU pots. He's very aggro postflop.

    He took a long time before raising flop.

    $400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 17, 01:25:21 ET 2008
    Table Table 129236 (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 5: HERO ( $967.08 USD )
    Seat 2: ILIKE_BLUFF ( $385.73 USD )
    Seat 6: FI5HFINDER ( $389.60 USD )
    Seat 3: Czech_Rzr ( $454.23 USD )
    Seat 4: joker512222 ( $198.10 USD )
    Seat 1: atta22 ( $400 USD )
    joker512222 posts small blind [$2 USD].
    HERO posts big blind [$4 USD].

    ** Dealing down cards **

    Dealt to HERO
    FI5HFINDER raises [$16 USD]
    ILIKE_BLUFF calls [$16 USD]
    Czech_Rzr calls [$16 USD]
    joker512222 folds.
    HERO calls [$12 USD]

    ** Dealing Flop **

    HERO bets [$51 USD]
    FI5HFINDER folds.
    ILIKE_BLUFF folds.
    Czech_Rzr raises [$154 USD]
    HERO…

    2)

    Villain is 53/1/0.8. I haven’t seen him raise yet in about an hour at the table and I’ve been pretty aggro.

    $400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, January 17, 01:10:41 ET 2008
    Table Jackpot #1304478 (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: FISH3N3O ( $345 USD )
    Seat 3: poncho922102 ( $659.14 USD )
    Seat 4: atta22 ( $1,247.24 USD )
    Seat 5: HERO ( $499.90 USD )
    Seat 2: ChaoNiMaBi ( $144.20 USD )
    Seat 6: Chris_Grant ( $400 USD )
    poncho922102 posts small blind [$2 USD].
    atta22 posts big blind [$4 USD].

    ** Dealing down cards **

    Dealt to HERO
    HERO raises [$14 USD]
    FISH3N3O calls [$14 USD]
    ChaoNiMaBi folds.
    poncho922102 folds.
    atta22 folds.

    ** Dealing Flop **

    HERO bets [$31 USD]
    FISH3N3O raises [$62 USD]
    HERO…
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    foldzzz
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    hand 1 is def. a fold. Hand 2 im not so sure because his range is full of draws and smaller overpairs.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    Villain is 53/1/0.8. I haven’t seen him raise yet in about an hour at the table and I’ve been pretty aggro.
    meh, just read this. hand 2 is probly a fold also.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    wouldn't draws raise bigger? this looks more like value then a semibluff. also his stats... 0.8 AF. also him not raising for an hour is a solid tell I think here
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    so in hand 1 we give villain credit for JT or 55 and that's that?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    TT seems more likely. But idk... his action seems strong and he's basically put 1/3 of his stack in. The best you're up against might be an OESD. also I don;t really like calling with AJ in a 4way pot which I have to play OOP all the way
  8. #8
    fold both.

    Are are way behind and flipping a ton more than being ahead on flop.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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    u can also fold AJo pre
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    Hand 1 I wouldn't call preflop; I'd fold or 3-bet it.
    As played, if give villain a very tight range:
    Board: Jd Th 5s
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 40.723% 40.71% 00.01% 11286 2.50 { AhJc }
    Hand 1: 59.277% 59.27% 00.01% 16429 2.50 { JJ-TT, 55, KQs, JTs, 98s, KQo }

    If we put TJo in there, it's a lot worse:
    Board: Jd Th 5s
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 36.902% 36.86% 00.05% 12041 15.00 { AhJc }
    Hand 1: 63.098% 63.05% 00.05% 20599 15.00 { JJ-TT, 55, KQs, JTs, 98s, KQo, JTo }

    I don't know how often villain wil call with KQs/KQo preflop though. Maybe we could put some bluffs in there.

    I really have no idea if calling is better/worse than folding. By calling I'd say c/f any K or Q turn/river and call any other turn/river maybe. But maybe folding is better, I don't know.


    Hand 2 is probably a fold but calling isn't bad I guess because he COULD be doing it with 78 or something and the price with implied is good.
  11. #11
    I either squeeze AJ pre there or fold.
  12. #12
    ya ok cool noone needs to waste anymore time on this one thx for replies.

    i folded both but I wanted to run this by ppl as I haven't played for awhile.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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