$16 - QQ on Txx facing reraise, shove over and call on flop

[mattiesmat]

Can we assume we are beat and fold?

Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
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MP2: t1180
CO: t1380
BTN: t1470
SB: t1990
BB: t1500
UTG: t1500
UTG+1: t1500
UTG+2: t1480
Hero (MP1): t1500

Pre Flop: Hero is MP1 with Q Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t80, MP2 calls t80, CO calls t80, 1 fold, SB calls t70, 1 fold

Flop: (t340) T 6 2 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, MP2 raises to t880, CO raises to t1300 all in, SB calls t1300, Hero ??

[Tim Vecchioni]

you have to assume you are best here...you are up against a a/10 at worst...unless you feel they limped with those 2's i cant see myself folding this hand ever...not that early in a tourny.

[DaddyDeez]

thats some scary stuff goin on after the flop but i hafta agree with Tim here, its damn near impossible to put someone on a set.
i push here and if someone has a set; oh well load up another.

[Showtime23]

smells like set - if u fold u have 1k left. Someone has AT or even KT the otherguy has maybe JJ or set. I might fold this in this spot, but its close..

[mattiesmat]

Why is a set 'damn near impossible'?
TT, 66, 22 are all likely hands.
I mean they get odds to play for set value.
Or am I missing something?

[biondino]

Lol fold, it's not close! None of the 3 villains has any reason to push unnecessarily, there are no draws AT ALL for them to be chasing, and the best case scenario is that two of them have JJ and then you suck out on the other guy's 22 on the river

[drmcboy]

bio, pretty much anything is close getting ~ 4/1

sick spot, I guess give up. I would go with it vs MP2 and CO but SB makes it a fold

[taipan168]

With that sort of action in front, I think you have to let it go. Against one shove I instacall, against two I think about it and probably call but against three shoves there's too much chance you're crushed by a set, particularly on that dry board.

[bjsaust]

Yeah, I cant possibly see how we think we're ahead here. We've had one guy raise our flop lead, another push over, and a check/call AI from the third guy. I cant hit the fold button fast enough on this hand.


I think the more interesting question here is whether hero should have c-bet, or taken some other line?

[bjsaust]

drmc's point about pot odds is a good one, but at this point I think I play the stacsize > potodds card.