$16 - JJ on Ahigh, go 'broke'?

[mattiesmat]

What do you do?
He was 45/0.
The pot size is close to his stack size.

Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 8 players
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Hero (UTG+1): t1750
MP1: t2680
MP2: t3025
CO: t1010
BTN: t1215
SB: t1165
BB: t1390
UTG: t1265

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with J J
1 fold, Hero raises to t250, 2 folds, CO calls t250, 3 folds

Flop: (t650) 7 A 9 (2 players)
Hero ??

[Tim Vecchioni]

I lead out here and if he pushes, im in with hopefully some outs, probably not know much about this player he could of called you with a lot of things besides an ace, plus if it was a big ace he probably woulda came over the top of you preflop if he was that short. Odds are you are winning the hand of have a good amount of outs if your not, so i commit myself by leading out hoping for a fold obviously.

[drmcboy]

I would check, call if he shoves, shove any non spade turn, but moving in is fine too and much better than folding at any point.

[bjsaust]

My instinct was to shove flop, but drmc's line makes a lot of sense. If we're going to get it AI anyway, give opp more of a chance to get his chips in.

Whats your line if the turn does bring a spade drmc? Are we still happy to get our chips in with our pocket J spade?

[mattiesmat]

The problem with checking is that he looks passive and will probably not bet the flop too often and it would suck if we let him pair is overcard.

[taipan168]

Opp has 760 behind and the pot is 650. I just put opp AI right here and now, particularly since we were the preflop raiser.

[drmcboy]

My instinct was to shove flop, but drmc's line makes a lot of sense. If we're going to get it AI anyway, give opp more of a chance to get his chips in.

Whats your line if the turn does bring a spade drmc? Are we still happy to get our chips in with our pocket J spade?

yes, but I would check turn spade then shove river so we are more likely to get a call from worse spades or maybe two pair+


Matt I agree checking is passive but:

I think he's forced to move in with any PP with a spade

He may bluff since we can't continue without a good spade or an Ace.

It's hard to figure out what he'll call a push with that doesn't have us beat or flipping, except maybe the same PP(or 9x)+spade combos he'll shove anyway.

And I can't see that we ever fold a better hand.