$27 - WTF is this?

[mattiesmat]

Is this a spot to fold QQ?
The guy who reraised me was 38/18 over 16 hands.
The other guys are unknowns.

Poker Stars $25 $2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP2): t1500
CO: t1420
BTN: t1470
SB: t1380
BB: t1480
UTG: t1420
UTG+1: t1320
MP1: t3510

Pre Flop: Hero is MP2 with Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 raises to t80, Hero raises to t250, 2 folds, SB raises to t700, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t680, MP1 raises to t3510 all in, Hero ??

[taipan168]

Cry and call because you have QQ, a TON of overlay and MP1 shows up with AK or JJ often enough to make calling +EV.

[FlyingSaucy]

that is some heavy action this early in a $27 though. it's close. If it was only the loose guy it's a definite call but with an unknown in the blinds 4 betting, utg limp/flat calling, and you stuck in the middle of 4 way action. 95% of the time one of the 3 of those guys has AA or KK

If this was play money i would call.

[bjsaust]

At lower levels I put UTG on a small-mid PP. Its the other two I worry about...

I dont hate a fold here, but I get Taipans point about odds/etc.

[TLR]

I think you should fold it

[Skeeno]

Christ almighty . .

I think it's weak but I probably get out of the way, I know we have QQ, but surely one of these turns up with AA/KK more times than not, what is the UTG calling with, the MP perhaps you can assign AK/JJ etc but I think one of the three villains has us beat.

[Rondavu]

You're the meat in a high pocket sandwich.

[GatorJH]

In Phil Gordon's "Little Blue Book" he goes through a scenarion almost exactly like this and makes that statement that "the fourth raise is almost allways pocket Aces".

Barring a read I would fold here and if villian gets called and shows down something less that A's or K's would make a note of it for future situations.

[drmcboy]

this is so sick, I thought fold but this really isn't so bad and sometimes someone has JJ or something weird:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,630,661,440 games 43.906 secs 560,986,230 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.289% 20.01% 05.28% 4927495896 1301294610.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 25.289% 20.01% 05.28% 4927495896 1301294610.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 25.289% 20.01% 05.28% 4927495896 1301294610.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 24.134% 20.72% 03.41% 5103898560 840391362.00 { QQ }

[Skeeno]

Out of interest what happened?

[Ragnar4]

this is so sick, I thought fold but this really isn't so bad and sometimes someone has JJ or something weird:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,630,661,440 games 43.906 secs 560,986,230 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.289% 20.01% 05.28% 4927495896 1301294610.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 25.289% 20.01% 05.28% 4927495896 1301294610.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 25.289% 20.01% 05.28% 4927495896 1301294610.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 24.134% 20.72% 03.41% 5103898560 840391362.00 { QQ }

I'd be willing to bet you could even widen UTG + 1's range quite a bit too. Making this even more +ev.