What do you think, did I play this right?

[Monty3038]

I think I suffered a bad beat in a 9 person SNG with 7 players left last night. I am not 100% familiar with the lingo/posting hands, but here goes, let me know what you think.

Dealer: Has about 2500 in chips
Small Blind: Has about 1000 in chips, (folded)
Me (Big Blind): Qh Ah (2300 in chips)
Player 1: folds
Player 2: Calls big blind of 100 (about 2400 in chips)
Player 3: folds
Player 4: Calls big blind (has about 4,000 in chips)

Ok, so now I'm in ok shape, I'm holding AQ with most players after me being weak on their play normally, with the chip leader the only strong player. He limped in with a call of the big blind. I raise to 5x BB meaning I've got 500 in chips on the table.
I get called by Player 2
I get called by Player 4
all others folded out.

So it is 3 of us in, flop comes 10c, Jd, Kd

Logic tells me I have a straight, one of them might be on a diamond flush draw or could have KK paired up or trips Ks. But I've nailed the straight. Being the player I am I go all in. I get called immediately by the weak player, player 2 and then hesitantly by the chip leader.

Hands come up...
Me: 10c Jd Qh Kd Ah (Straight)
Player 2: 10c Jd Kc Kd Ks
Player 4: 3s 10c Jd Kd Ad

So did I make the right call? I'm still winning, turn brings a crap card, something like the 4 of clubs.
Still winning, river comes and is Kh, giving player 2 4 Kings.

Did I play it right going all in and just suffer a bad beat or was I too aggressive?

[FlyingSaucy]

First, you might consider checking preflop since you will be out of position on the flop with an awkward stack size relative to the pot if you raise it 5x like you did. If the flop does not come up as the miracle nut flop you want, then what do you do? Say it's K63r.

Anyway, your post flop play seems to be what you are asking about. The pot was something like 1500 and you bet 1800 (the rest of your stack). Slow playing it would have been a big problem (ie, checking with the hope that the other two check and go to the turn). The other option is check raising but you run the risk of giving free cards. I think a push is fine as long as you know at least one of them is going to call. Betting 2/3 pot and betting full pot is essentially the same here.

[FlyingSaucy]

BTW, when you get all of your chips in when you have the nuts and then end up losing the hand is a bad beat.

[taipan168]

Hi and welcome to FTR, it's great to have you here!

There's a terrific free program called Pokerstove that allows you to run simulations of hands against each other. Here's yours:

Board: Tc Jd Kd
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      
Hand 0: 	55.205%  	50.28% 	04.93% 	        { AhQh }
Hand 1: 	35.770%  	35.55% 	00.22% 	        { KcKs }
Hand 2: 	09.025%  	04.10% 	04.93% 	        { Ad3s }

As you can see, you got all your chips in on the flop with a hand that was 55% to win (or better than even money) and you ended up getting 2 to 1 on your chips. Sure, sometimes you get unlucky but keep on getting your money in good like this and you'll win over the long term.

[bjsaust]

Your logic seems fine to me. This is a great place to push. You got what you wanted, FD calls (you beat him 2 times out of 3) and KK calls (not sure on this, but you beat him lots of times since he's drawing to one last K and a paired board). So you've got the nuts for the flop (cant possibly be a better hand on the flop) and its quite likely at least one person will call you on that board.

[taipan168]

FD calls (you beat him 2 times out of 3)

Minor point, but the player with A3o didn't even have the flush draw, all he had was a gutshot (as it turns out, to split or for a runner runner full house).

I think the main point here, and why this is not too aggressive, is that Hero flopped the nuts, but the vulnerable nuts, against two opponents. In this case it is almost always correct to play very fast. As I said above, you are happy when they call because they need to catch up to beat you, but similarly you don't mind winning the pot right now because it is so large.

[bjsaust]

Oh, lol. Wow.

Anyway, yes, push is goot. A standard raise leaves so little behind you might as well.

[Skeeno]

KK played this horribly imo . . got awfully lucky.

A3o played it just as bad and should have mucked pre.

You played it fine in my book, I'd perhaps advocate checking pre OOP, but after the flop I want my money in ahead, you have to bet with the Flush draw, so well played just sucks that a donk who limps with KK and then flat calls 3 ways sucked out.

[taipan168]

KK played this horribly imo . . got awfully lucky.

I seem to see this very often, even at the $27 and $38 level. Donk limps after a limper with a monster hand, ends up in a 4-way pot, gets sucked out on by some BB special that would have turbofolded pre if he'd raised.

Limping from UTG with a monster hand with the intention of re-raising when there are a few very aggressive players still to act is one thing, but limping after a limper is just throwing money away IMO.