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    Default $16 - overpair on paired board facing weird raise

    No reads, what would you do here?

    Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    BB: t1470
    Hero (UTG): t1505
    UTG+1: t2940
    MP1: t1395
    MP2: t1720
    CO: t1455
    BTN: t1455
    SB: t1560

    Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with T T
    Hero calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 5 folds, BB checks

    Flop: (t105) 6 7 7 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t70, UTG+1 calls t70, BB folds

    Turn: (t245) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets t160, UTG+1 raises to t520, Hero ??
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
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    I'm not sure I see the value in betting turn here.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Doesnt look like a weird raise either. You've shown strength on 2 streets and he's trying to get all his chips into the middle.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Why are we limping tens UTG?

    His call on the flop implies he's caught something, perhaps flush draw, perhaps straight draw, perhaps he's trapping with a 7 who knows - his re-raise on the turn indicates he has something much bigger than your tens and I'd fold - but again I wouldn't be limping UTG.
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    what would you be doing UTG, Skeeno?


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    Raising to 100.
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    I raise TT to 90 UTG.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    I raise TT to 90 UTG.
    do you raise other hands different sizes? i assume not, just making sure.

    but yeah i raise this pre, do your line on flop/turn and fold.
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    I can see some legitmate reasons for limping this UTG, but tens have too much value for me to allow 4/5 people into the pot. If we're limping we're playing to hit our other two cards more times than not which in my opinion is a waste of decent cards. I probably play 99 the same, limp the rest below - and fold them all if I don't connect in any shape or form.
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    Nah, 3x +1per limper is my standard raise at 15/30.

    I probably limp 99.

    Those mid-highish PPs (99-JJ) come down a lot to personal preference and how you want to play postflop. Theres a great writeup in the tactics digest that covers a lot of it.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    I'm not sure I see the value in betting turn here.
    It's an easy bet, no one ever folds a pair on a paired board because they're like "There's two sevens on the board so there's no way he has one!"
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    Why are we limping tens UTG?

    Pretty standard to limp UTG w/ 10's IMO. Not that it's the only option but I'm pretty sure Matties is never raising 10's UTG LVL 1 or 2 here. Me neither..

    I have no clue what to do on the hand. I bet pot or close to it on the flop given the 2 draws out , and now i guess i fold.
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    I'd still prefer to check turn and either catch a bluff (or weaker pp), or value bet river.
    Just dipping my toes back in.

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