QQ, ace flop multiway

[fjuanl]

Besides raising more preflop anything else I could have done? Both villians were losing players. $22 i think. Does anything change if this was Kxx?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO (t1940)
Button (t1030)
SB (t1760)
BB (t3195)
UTG (t2330)
Hero (t2060)
MP2 (t1185)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q.
1 fold, Hero raises to t250, MP2 calls t250, 3 folds, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t800) 6, 4, A (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t800) 3 (3 players)
BB bets t400, Hero folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t800

[taipan168]

I think this is absolutely fine, I am definitely not betting this flop against two losing players, this is a clear WA/WB situation.

I think I play a Kxx rainbow flop the same too, but I might consider betting if there were draws on the flop since in that case worse hands will call you.

[bjsaust]

I dont like folding this on the turn. I call turn and evaluate the river. Its still quite possible we're ahead here.

[taipan168]

I dont like folding this on the turn. I call turn and evaluate the river. Its still quite possible we're ahead here.

Although we're getting 3:1 on the call, really the only hands we beat that lead for 1/2 pot into two opps are bluffs. Smaller pocket pairs might bet this flop but I would expect them to try to check down against two opps. If it checked around again on the turn I would call a smallish bet on the river for sure.

That said, we are probably still just deep enough to call here and see what happens on the river, particularly with position on opp - but I don't like it because we are behind too often here IMO. Don't forget BB could have tried to pull a C-R on the flop and when it checked around, realises that he needs to get some chips in the pot with his top pair.

[bjsaust]

This is basically the same line discussed in the KK v's flopped A threads, except we have QQ rather than KK. The same hands that bluff us in the KK example bluff us here, the only extra hands we're behind is exactly KK (unlikely on PF action). The main difference is two opps v's one in most of those threads, which does make an A more likely, but I still think theres value in taking that line.

[bjsaust]

Hmm, I dunno. Your point about him making that bet into 2 opps instead of just one is a fair one. I'm still not thrilled about folding, but that maybe be best...