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$16 - JJ as overpair vs aggressor

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  1. #1

    Default $16 - JJ as overpair vs aggressor

    How is the flop bet?
    Fold or get it it now?
    No real reads, besides that he had not played a hand the first 4 hands.

    Poker Stars $15 $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    BTN: t1445
    SB: t1330
    Hero (BB): t1530
    UTG: t1740
    UTG+1: t1580
    MP1: t1835
    MP2: t2620
    CO: t1420

    Pre Flop: Hero is BB with J J
    2 folds, MP1 raises to t120, 4 folds, Hero calls t90

    Flop: (t255) 8 4 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets t175, MP1 raises to t480, Hero ??
    I am just another learning player, so read my comments (very) open minded.
  2. #2
    Looks scary. But to be honest, I am willing to go broke here and fire up a new one. villains range here can be very wide. I have seen people going broke with something as bad as 55 in this spot. If villain was tight I might get away here, but without a read I go broke.
  3. #3
    Flop bet is good, and now I am shoving over. If opp was a good regular I would lean towards C-R all-in rather than leading however.
  4. #4
    Actually I would fold this one.. Why would you shove over tai?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by mukaka
    Actually I would fold this one.. Why would you shove over tai?
    Bet/fold is bad for a couple of reasons:
    - Since opp was the preflop raiser, he could be trying to pick off your flop lead bet (I do this quite often if I have a read that opp donkbets the flop)
    - Even if he is not bluffing, he could have hands that we are ahead of (A8, 99-TT, flush draw)

    That said, I am not delighted about getting it in here but folding an overpair is too weak here IMO.
  6. #6
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    If we're calling PF here, I think our plan is to be happy to get it in on an all under flop.
    Just dipping my toes back in.

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