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ATs, UTG and button limp, shove? ($27)

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    Default ATs, UTG and button limp, shove? ($27)

    UTG's stats were something like 25/13, Button's 15/3. Shove this to try to pick up 700 dead chips?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 no antes (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t1117)
    CO (t2425)
    Button (t1310)
    Hero (t2215)
    BB (t2675)
    UTG (t2285)
    MP1 (t1473)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, T.
    UTG calls t200, 3 folds, Button calls t200, Hero raises to t2215
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    I would.
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    Me too.. I wouldn't do it at my level ($11) but I believe at higher buy-ins these kind of moves are more necessary and more do-able
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    I don't like it so much, mainly because of buttons limp. 15/3 implies that they could easily have AJ/AQ or a mid pocket pair that wont fold to a shove. I just don't think you have much fold equity and ATs doesn't do great from what buttons stats indicate. There is also the chance that UTG limped with a monster
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    I too prefer a call here and play the flop accordingly. Stacks are fairly evenly distributed so I don't think you need to get too ancy here.
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    15/3 limps a bit wider on the button behind another limper wont he? I think we have decent FE here, we're looking at an 11 BB shove with 700 in the pot, so about 3xpot.

    I wouldnt call here, if I dont want to play I fold. What flops are you looking for if you think you're better off calling than pushing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    15/3 limps a bit wider on the button behind another limper wont he? I think we have decent FE here, we're looking at an 11 BB shove with 700 in the pot, so about 3xpot.

    I wouldnt call here, if I dont want to play I fold. What flops are you looking for if you think you're better off calling than pushing?
    If I called here I would open push any Ace, Ten, 2 club board and maybe a low raggedy board (kind of like a stop-n-go).

    With that said I also don't think a semi squeeze play shove is a bad move either if you think both villians will fold unless they have really big hands.
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    I need a read that UTG limps junk to shove.
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