Bet size and line check

[Fnord]

UTG plays a lot of hands. No clue how he plays post-flop.
The other 2 limpers are degenerate donators.

Note stack sizes.

Mixed feelings on every street.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($203.40)
UTG ($35)
UTG+1 ($108.30)
MP1 ($198.20)
MP2 ($33)
CO ($198.55)
Button ($197)
Fnord ($325.35)

Preflop: Fnord is SB with , .
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 2 folds, Fnord raises to $20, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $18, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($46) , , (2 players)
Fnord bets $30, UTG+1 raises to $88.3, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: $106

[nutsinho]

i think 15 preflop should do it if youre not getting all in HU on absolutely every flop. as played i think a bet of like 24 has about the same FE, but i dont mind your sizing at all

[dev]

Preflop with 2 ultra-shorties and one 54bb stack... isn't it better to just stack off with AK then? Make the ridiculous over-bet and avoid playing OOP against random hands.

As played, I think $30 is fine to find out if he wants to see the river with you. Since he's probably got a pair, we have to get out of the way of the push, but that was the plan when we bet $30, right?

[Vrax]

I open push flop and expect to crush his lower Ace high or suckout his pocket pair. You have also additional counterfeiting outs vs 22-77. Money behind = 2x pot, not much room here for bet/fold line. He is degenerade donator, so it's more value push, than bluff push. Villain isn't folding his Ax and have some straight draws (T9, Q9 etc) in his gamb00l calling range, which greatly improves Fnord's equity.

[XTR1000]

I´d rather crai on this kind of flop vs shortstacks

[nutsinho]

is he really degenerate enough to call a shove or bet/call with like A9o? if so then yeah id never be folding postflop but i dont expect anyone to be that braindead until ive seen proof.

[Renton]

bet smaller for value/protection imo, 18$

[Renton]

not a bad spot to c/c a reasonable bet either, since we really want to see the turn.