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    Default A few $3.40 turbo hands (AA, AKs, AKo, Aqo)

    So I'm new to turbos. And pretty much poker all over again. Thanks to SnGwiz my pre-flop strategy has been pretty optimal but I'm finding my post-flop game is completely nil now. I haven't finished rereading all the HoHs so I feel lost sometimes and just go with instinct. I realize I'm a totally terrible player so I look forward to advice. Be brutal, tell me I'm horrible. Being breakeven this week at the $3.40s has been somewhat humbling.

    What's the right move here? My first instinct was to push the flop after his bet because of all the potential draws on the board and many times at this level he'll call with a weak PP or a pair on the board. This is probably a horrible line of thought or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hand 1
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t1200)
    Hero (t3040)
    Button (t1805)
    SB (t1455)
    BB (t1430)
    UTG (t1710)
    UTG+1 (t3090)
    MP1 (t1270)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 2 folds, Hero raises to t360, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t240.

    Flop: (t765) T, 9, 5 (2 players)
    UTG+1 bets t390, Hero ???
    Should I have open pushed this? I was 13xBB, but that doesn't seem optimal. Preflop bet should have been 400 with the caller ahead, but eh. We push this flop because it's so uncoordinated and we're 10xBB after the flop, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hand 2
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    UTG (t3748)
    UTG+1 (t1350)
    MP1 (t1510)
    MP2 (t1175)
    CO (t2897)
    Hero (t1315)
    SB (t1265)
    BB (t1740)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
    3 folds, MP2 calls t100, 1 fold, Hero raises to t300, 1 fold, BB calls t200, MP2 folds.

    Flop: (t750) , , (2 players)
    BB bets t100, Hero raises to t1015, BB calls t915.

    Turn: (t2780) (2 players)

    River: (t2780) (2 players)

    Final Pot: t2780
    Kind of gave up on this one on the turn. I didn't have the chips to invest more betting (which may have been spewing) and figured his Ax Kx Qx caught a piece, or the PP he called with had me beaten and he knew it. He would probably call me to the river and I can't showdown more than likely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hand 3
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    CO (t1500)
    Button (t1490)
    Hero (t1480)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t3030)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1500)
    MP2 (t1500)
    MP3 (t1500)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    2 folds, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, 3 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80.

    Flop: (t320) , , (3 players)
    Hero bets t160, MP1 calls t160, MP2 folds.

    Turn: (t640) (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets t260, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t640
    We have no problem investing our stack in this flop, right? I mean, it's pretty optimal given my preflop bet. What the odds he has an 8? He usually has Ax here and I winrar. Right? He didn't have odds to call the flush, and if he has it I have 4 outs to the full so I'm not completely dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hand 4
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    BB (t245)
    UTG (t2950)
    MP1 (t2930)
    MP2 (t1685)
    CO (t1530)
    Hero (t1450)
    SB (t4210)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
    1 fold, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, CO calls t30, Hero raises to t150, 2 folds, MP1 calls t120, MP2 folds, CO calls t120.

    Flop: (t525) , , (3 players)
    MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 calls t300, CO folds.

    Turn: (t1125) (2 players)
    MP1 bets t540, Hero raises to t1000, MP1 calls t460.

    River: (t3125) (2 players)

    Final Pot: t3125
    Thanks much. I don't really want to waste anyone's time with a full tourney, SnGwiz seems to do a pretty good job of answering most of my questions. Postflop is a science I need to relearn, badly. I know I'm losing equity here.
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    Hand 1 push flop. it's a 3.40 , we will get called by worse a lot. 3.40 players love to trap , most are never betting a made flush here.
    Hand 2 easy push preflop esp after the limp. i would open shove more times than not even with out the limp. nothing wrong with pushing 13bb imo
    Hand 3 i would never be in this spot because i don't like raising AK out of the blind early. A lot of people do though , but imo checking/completing and playing a small pot since we are out of position and will likely be a 4 way pot is the best with a UNMADE hand. as played i prob cbet a little more. 200 or so. rest is fine.

    Hand 4- I limp behind with AQ almost always. i might raise if say all fold to hj/co who open limps , than i might raise. but with this many limpers i wouldn't. as played though i bet like 400 on the flop , and get it on on the turn
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Hand 1 push flop. it's a 3.40 , we will get called by worse a lot. 3.40 players love to trap , most are never betting a made flush here.
    Done. Glad that was the right move.

    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Hand 2 easy push preflop esp after the limp. i would open shove more times than not even with out the limp. nothing wrong with pushing 13bb imo
    I was borderline pushing here, and figured a raise/push flop had the same effect... I'm not sure what the line of thinking was at the time though, once we put in those 3BBs we're down to 10BBs which leaves us no maneuverability on the flop.

    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Hand 3 i would never be in this spot because i don't like raising AK out of the blind early. A lot of people do though , but imo checking/completing and playing a small pot since we are out of position and will likely be a 4 way pot is the best with a UNMADE hand. as played i prob cbet a little more. 200 or so. rest is fine.
    I'll remember this. I find AK (and AQ) is somewhat of a sink for me in these games when I'm out of position for this very reason. Harrington recommends basically raising everywhere with AK so that's what I did, but I find it gets me in trouble coming out of the blinds.

    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHusling101
    Hand 4- I limp behind with AQ almost always. i might raise if say all fold to hj/co who open limps , than i might raise. but with this many limpers i wouldn't. as played though i bet like 400 on the flop , and get it on on the turn
    I guess it's more +EV to limp with AQ in this position (with limpers) because we're likely to hit an A against an Ax opponent who will put his chips in, eh? We're safe from AK because he would have raised. In reviewing HoH I he says raise with AQs, and call with AQo in this position. Do you agree? Seems like a preflop error in this case then. It's good to hear postflop was basically standard though.
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    Hand 1 (AA) - I agree with Detroit, I am shoving over on the flop, they will lead (and call your shove) with many hands that you beat and if they have a single you want to give them bad odds to call.

    Hand 2 (AKs) - again I agree with Detroit, I am shoving this every time rather than standard raising and facing a tough decision the 68% of times I do not hit an A or K on the flop.

    Hand 3 (AKo) - I don't hate completing here but my preference is to raise to get it HU so we can c-bet with more confidence. Once you get called in two places and are first to act on the flop, I check and see what they do (and only call with odds to hit one of my overcards).

    Hand 4 (AQo) - again, I don't hate raising, this time because we have position and because we'd like to thin the field. As played, I bet the flop just a little harder, 350-400 to go and shove the turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Hand 3 (AKo) - I don't hate completing here but my preference is to raise to get it HU so we can c-bet with more confidence. Once you get called in two places and are first to act on the flop, I check and see what they do (and only call with odds to hit one of my overcards).
    So, in the case we raise from SB like I did, if we get two callers we're not cbetting. If we get a single caller we're cbetting most flops. Yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xioustic
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Hand 3 (AKo) - I don't hate completing here but my preference is to raise to get it HU so we can c-bet with more confidence. Once you get called in two places and are first to act on the flop, I check and see what they do (and only call with odds to hit one of my overcards).
    So, in the case we raise from SB like I did, if we get two callers we're not cbetting. If we get a single caller we're cbetting most flops. Yes?
    Yes that's right, I would c-bet against one opp unless the flop comes super connected/drawy like 9 T J or something like that OR if I had a read that opp was a super calling station.

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