Dubious hands from yesterday ($11)

[bjsaust]

Hand 1

Villian has min-raised from the button the last 3 times (this being the 4th).

Seat 1: TheMaggie (2,460)
Seat 3: Crandbry (2,445)
Seat 6: chenoa222 (5,885)
Seat 7: bjsaust (865)
Seat 8: captballs (1,350)
Seat 9: hustlers2 (495)
chenoa222 posts the small blind of 40
bjsaust posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [5c 8s]
captballs folds
hustlers2 folds
TheMaggie folds
Crandbry raises to 160
chenoa222 folds
bjsaust raises to 865, and is all in


Hand 2

This should be set or forget, but the min-bet on flop? Seemed like he wanted me to take it off him. What about turn and river? Worth trying again, fold with those odds? Urgg.

Seat 1: TheMaggie (1,200)
Seat 2: damorz_83 (1,260)
Seat 3: Crandbry (2,385)
Seat 4: Captain Smee (1,785)
Seat 5: goheels7 (1,410)
Seat 6: chenoa222 (1,650)
Seat 7: bjsaust (1,500)
Seat 8: captballs (1,470)
Seat 9: hustlers2 (840)
goheels7 posts the small blind of 15
chenoa222 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [4s 4d]
bjsaust calls 30
captballs folds
hustlers2 folds
TheMaggie folds
damorz_83 folds
Crandbry folds
Captain Smee calls 30
goheels7 calls 15
chenoa222 raises to 150
bjsaust calls 120
Captain Smee folds
goheels7 folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Jd 2d]
chenoa222 bets 30
bjsaust raises to 200
chenoa222 calls 170
*** TURN *** [Ah Jd 2d] [9h]
chenoa222 bets 30
bjsaust calls 30
*** RIVER *** [Ah Jd 2d 9h] [7s]
chenoa222 bets 30
bjsaust calls 30


Hand 2

I'm a little results oriented on this one, thoughts?

Seat 1: cklossrev (2,220)
Seat 2: bjsaust (4,465)
Seat 3: Karl 3 7s (2,235)
Seat 5: tai777 (2,360)
Seat 7: JJfishhooks (1,510)
Seat 9: sirmormolot (710)
cklossrev posts the small blind of 30
bjsaust posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [Qh Ah]
Karl 3 7s folds
tai777 calls 60
JJfishhooks folds
sirmormolot folds
cklossrev calls 30
bjsaust raises to 240
tai777 raises to 900
cklossrev folds
bjsaust has 15 seconds left to act
bjsaust calls 660
*** FLOP *** [6s 7h Th]
bjsaust checks
tai777 bets 960
bjsaust raises to 1,920


Hand 3

I think this is an old leak coming back. Obv I dont have pot odds to call, but approx 1/3 chance to win the whole tourney...


Seat 2: bjsaust (10,680)
Seat 3: Karl 3 7s (2,820)
Karl 3 7s posts the small blind of 100
bjsaust posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [9h 4d]
Karl 3 7s has 15 seconds left to act
Karl 3 7s calls 100
bjsaust checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 2h 3c]
bjsaust checks
Karl 3 7s bets 2,620, and is all in
bjsaust calls 2,620


Hand 4

Another results oriented one... My main thinking on river here is that whilst any T beats me, that doesnt make a heap of sense on the flop. Thoughts?

Seat 2: bjsaust (3,545)
Seat 3: Karl 3 7s (6,330)
Seat 5: tai777 (3,625)
Karl 3 7s posts the small blind of 100
tai777 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [Kc 5c]
bjsaust has 15 seconds left to act
bjsaust raises to 500
Karl 3 7s folds
tai777 calls 300
*** FLOP *** [2h Qs Kh]
tai777 checks
bjsaust bets 800
tai777 calls 800
*** TURN *** [2h Qs Kh] [9s]
tai777 checks
bjsaust checks
*** RIVER *** [2h Qs Kh 9s] [Jc]
tai777 bets 1,400
bjsaust has 15 seconds left to act
bjsaust calls 1,400


Hand 5

Try to maximise FE with a semi-bluff on bubble?

Seat 1: cklossrev (1,560)
Seat 2: bjsaust (2,005)
Seat 3: Karl 3 7s (6,530)
Seat 5: tai777 (3,405)
tai777 posts the small blind of 80
cklossrev posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [Qd Kc]
bjsaust has 15 seconds left to act
bjsaust raises to 420
Karl 3 7s folds
tai777 folds
cklossrev calls 260
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3c Th]
cklossrev checks
bjsaust bets 1,585, and is all in


Hand 6

I hate basically everything about this hand (other than the PF call) in review, but my reads were right. It just felt bluffy the whole way. I think I should have chucked it on the flop though...

Seat 1: cklossrev (2,635)
Seat 2: bjsaust (3,170)
Seat 3: Karl 3 7s (1,725)
Seat 5: tai777 (1,160)
Seat 7: JJfishhooks (1,440)
Seat 8: MTHodie (1,330)
Seat 9: sirmormolot (2,040)
bjsaust posts the small blind of 20
Karl 3 7s posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjsaust [7h 7c]
tai777 folds
JJfishhooks folds
MTHodie calls 40
sirmormolot folds
cklossrev folds
bjsaust calls 20
Karl 3 7s checks
*** FLOP *** [Th 4h Qh]
bjsaust checks
Karl 3 7s checks
MTHodie bets 120
bjsaust calls 120
Karl 3 7s folds
*** TURN *** [Th 4h Qh] [4d]
bjsaust checks
MTHodie bets 200
bjsaust calls 200
*** RIVER *** [Th 4h Qh 4d] [As]
bjsaust checks
MTHodie has 15 seconds left to act
MTHodie bets 970, and is all in
bjsaust calls 970

[taipan168]

Hand 1 (85o) - with 10x BB I think you can find a better spot than this.

Hand 2 (44) - the first limp is fine but calling the raise is sort of marginal I think, particularly because you don't close the action. I mostly fold here (but I would call another 90). As played, on the flop I don't like the raise, I would just call the donkminbet and keep on calling if he keeps on donkminbetting. I think you have very little fold equity with your raise against a donkminbetter (ie. a DONK).

2nd Hand 2 (AQs) - either raise as you did or check are both fine the first time around (but you need to play differently postflop depending on what you do). Once you get limp/re-raised, I am folding this pretty damn quickly - you are likely behind is range unless you have a read that he's a donk. As played, with the nut flush draw and 2 overs on the flop this is fine, but the real mistake was calling the limp/RR preflop.

Hand 3 (94o) - I actually prefer just betting the flop and seeing what he does rather than check/calling the AI. You don't have odds to call this even if you see both cards.

Hand 4 (K5s) - why not just shove the turn rather than checking? As played, you have to call the river since I agree his play doesn't make a lot of sense if he has a naked T. K/better kicker is definitely a possibility however as is JT.

Hand 5 (KQo) - I fold this from UTG with a ~13x BB stack. As played, assuming opp isn't a donk you do have huge fold equity and lots of outs if called, I don't hate this. To be honest I would probably just check behind and get my chips in if I hit a 9, Q, K or A on the turn.

Hand 6 (77) - preflop is fine, give it up on the flop, your FD may well be no good. As played, give it up on the turn and GTFO pretty damn quick on the river, there is like nothing you beat by this stage after opp fired three barrels including the AI on the river.

[bjsaust]

Oops, 2nd Hand 2 (AQs). I discounted a monster here, I felt a smaller PP was more likely. I wanted to push over, but felt he'd call with most of his hands and I'd go in 50/50, decided to see a flop instead. Dunno though, lots of chips to see it, but didnt want to let some donk push me off a good hand PF and I had a big stack. If one more person had limped I'd have checked, but with only 2 limper, one of who was the SB I felt I could get this HU or even take it PF enough times.

Bit unsure of my read though in retrospect. Hardly ever saw the limp/RR with AA/KK in the $22s, but this was an $11 and it was the weekend, so a higher proportion of donkeys than I'm used to.

Hand 4 (K5s) Hmm, I guess I didnt shove turn because I felt I'd fold worse hands and get called by better. With SD out there, maybe protecting my hand is worth it though...

Hand 5(KQo) Remember UTG is also the CO. I find its really easy to blind down on FT if you dont make steal attempts fairly regularly.

Hand 6(77) - Yeah, I think this was tilt-related. Given what he showed down I could argue that I read souls, but I think I just got lucky that he just couldnt let go of his bluff. The fact that even against a bluff my FD may be no good makes me agree its a fold.

I'll hold off results for a bit, these were the 7 biggest wins and losses from a set of 4, about 50/50 win/loss.

[taipan168]

Oops, 2nd Hand 2 (AQs). I discounted a monster here, I felt a smaller PP was more likely. I wanted to push over, but felt he'd call with most of his hands and I'd go in 50/50, decided to see a flop instead. Dunno though, lots of chips to see it, but didnt want to let some donk push me off a good hand PF and I had a big stack. If one more person had limped I'd have checked, but with only 2 limper, one of who was the SB I felt I could get this HU or even take it PF enough times.

Yes, AQs is a good hand preflop, but it turns to cack when you're faced with a preflop 3-bet. Without a very very good read I'm looking for QQ+ (and maybe AK) to shove over with here.

Hand 4 (K5s) Hmm, I guess I didnt shove turn because I felt I'd fold worse hands and get called by better. With SD out there, maybe protecting my hand is worth it though...

Very read dependent, but a lot of donks will call your turn shove with hands like flush/straight draws, Qx and non-set pocket pairs. If you play your line then you definitely need to call the river bet however.

Hand 5(KQo) Remember UTG is also the CO. I find its really easy to blind down on FT if you dont make steal attempts fairly regularly.

Agreed, this would be fine if you had a bigger stack (say 20x BB+), but with 13x BB on the bubble you need to be preserving chips for a +EV shoving opportunity and this isn't it.

[bjsaust]

I posted these as I felt they were the hands I played badly, but some worked out. Darned poker...

Results:

Hand 1 (85o) - villain had something like AJ this time and called my resteal and I went out.


Hand 2a (44) - villain had QQ. Not sure if a bigger flop raise or a raise on the turn could have got him off it or not.

Hand 2b (AQs) - Villain had JJ. Seems a really strange way to play it pre...I actually expected a smaller PP like 88 or something. Anyway, as it turns out I was a 54% favorite on that flop with my 2 overs as live outs. Hit a Q on the turn but he hit a J on the river.

Hand 3 (94o) - Villain had 67o for a gutshot, meaning I was actually a strong favorite on this flop, rivered a 6 to give me the straight. Still a bad call, but fortunately opp was baaad.

Hand 4 (K5s) - Villain had Q5o and no concept of value. What possible worse hands would I call with on river? Small chance I might fold better, but very unlikely.

Hand 5 (KQo) - Villain had KJo taking away 3 of my outs, but I hit a 9 on the river. Go luckbox me! Have checked stats since and all 4 were playing loosely, although they were fairly tight postflop. Probably a fold pre with how they were playing...

Hand 6 (77) - Probably my worst hand in months, but I got lucky in that villain was terrible and figured a triple barrel AI bluff with 33 (no FD) was the best way he could play the hand.

[Geanooooo]

Dont bluff/hero call in SNGs too much without cast iron reads. Save it for HU imo.

[bjsaust]

I posted these as I felt they were the hands I played badly

[kmind]

Hand 6 is a lot closer than the others have been suggesting. You know the rest.

[fjuanl]

Hand 6 is a lot closer than the others have been suggesting.

care to explain?

[bjsaust]

I think he's referring primarily to the river call.

Q or T should never push this river.

Anything less than a flush should be a mix of checking, or betting for value (an A might bet for value here).

Flush would likely value bet.

Better players you'd also see a lot of checking to let us bluff here.

A bluff is actually a fairly likely holding when he pushes instead of value betting.

Of course, that assumes villian is competent enough to apply that kind of logic to.


At the time I felt the small turn bet looked a lot like a weak 2nd barrel bluff also. Again I'd expect a made flush to bet bigger for value, and a pair to bet bigger to deny odds.

Personally I think the flop was the worst street of the lot.