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  1. #1

    Default A $16 turbo for review.

    I need all the help I can get at this level, thanks in advance:

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    ---Tournament Summary---
    $16 SNG: Finished 6/9 for $0
    Data for 58 hands.
    You played 5 hands (8.62%)
    You raised 3 times preflop (5.17%)

    A 9 SB (M = 50.00; c+f+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    3 7 BU (M = 49.67; f+r+f+f+c+f+F)
    T 3 CO (M = 49.67; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    7 2 CO-1 (M = 49.67; f+f+r+f+F)
    7 J MP2 (M = 49.67; f+f+f+F)
    9 5 MP1 (M = 49.67; f+f+F)
    J K UTG+1 (M = 49.67; f+F)
    J 6 UTG (M = 33.11; F)

    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 33.11
    PokerStars Game #17090197821: Tournament #86602133, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/04/29 - 21:32:34 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '86602133 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Simplicity8 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 2: mjcongleton (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: mtlbigrats (1610 in chips)
    Seat 4: iceman1141 (1735 in chips)
    Seat 5: Hyped-KFFL (1520 in chips)
    Seat 6: spartman77 (1770 in chips)
    Seat 7: schwarmann (1380 in chips)
    Seat 8: Jmoneyyy (1300 in chips)
    Seat 9: acoimbra (1225 in chips)
    Simplicity8: posts small blind 15
    mjcongleton: posts big blind 30
    Preflop: mjcongleton dealt 3 A
    mtlbigrats: folds
    iceman1141: folds
    Hyped-KFFL: calls 30
    spartman77: folds
    schwarmann: calls 30
    Jmoneyyy: folds
    acoimbra: folds
    Simplicity8: folds
    mjcongleton: checks
    Flop: 4 7 Q
    mjcongleton: checks
    Hyped-KFFL: bets 60

    schwarmann: raises 90 to 150

    mjcongleton: folds
    Hyped-KFFL: calls 90
    Turn: T
    Hyped-KFFL: checks
    schwarmann: checks
    River: 4
    Hyped-KFFL: checks
    schwarmann: checks
    Showdown:
    Hyped-KFFL: shows 5 5 (two pair, Fives and Fours)
    schwarmann: shows 8 8 (two pair, Eights and Fours)
    schwarmann collected 405 from pot


    J 7 SB (M = 32.44; f+f+f+f+f+f+r+F)
    2 Q BU (M = 32.11; f+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    4 K CO (M = 32.11; f+f+f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 32.11
    PokerStars Game #17090248036: Tournament #86602133, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/04/29 - 21:35:03 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '86602133 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Simplicity8 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: mjcongleton (1445 in chips)
    Seat 3: mtlbigrats (1655 in chips)
    Seat 4: iceman1141 (1690 in chips)
    Seat 5: Hyped-KFFL (1310 in chips)
    Seat 6: spartman77 (1770 in chips)
    Seat 7: schwarmann (1605 in chips)
    Seat 8: Jmoneyyy (1300 in chips)
    Seat 9: acoimbra (1225 in chips)
    Hyped-KFFL: posts small blind 15
    spartman77: posts big blind 30
    Preflop: mjcongleton dealt A K
    schwarmann: folds
    Jmoneyyy: folds
    acoimbra: folds
    Simplicity8: folds
    mjcongleton: raises 60 to 90

    mtlbigrats: folds
    iceman1141: folds
    Hyped-KFFL: folds
    spartman77: folds
    mjcongleton collected 75 from pot
    mjcongleton: doesn't show hand


    Q 2 MP2 (M = 33.11; f+f+f+F)
    8 J MP1 (M = 19.87; f+f+F)
    A 5 UTG+1 (M = 19.87; f+F)
    9 7 UTG (M = 19.87; F)
    8 T BB (M = 19.87; f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    8 A SB (M = 19.20; c+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    T Q BU (M = 18.87; f+c+f+f+f+F)
    6 3 CO (M = 9.43; f+f+f+f+F)
    T 7 MP2 (M = 9.43; f+f+f+F)
    Q 2 MP1 (M = 9.43; f+f+F)
    8 3 UTG+1 (M = 9.43; f+F)
    5 8 UTG (M = 9.43; F)
    Q K BB (M = 9.43; f+c+f+r+f+f+f+F)
    5 T SB (M = 8.77; f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    T 9 BU (M = 8.43; f+f+f+p+f+F)
    7 8 CO (M = 5.62; f+f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 5.62
    PokerStars Game #17090480689: Tournament #86602133, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/04/29 - 21:46:28 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '86602133 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Simplicity8 (1275 in chips)
    Seat 2: mjcongleton (1265 in chips)
    Seat 3: mtlbigrats (1305 in chips)
    Seat 4: iceman1141 (890 in chips)
    Seat 6: spartman77 (1995 in chips)
    Seat 7: schwarmann (3395 in chips)
    Seat 8: Jmoneyyy (1325 in chips)
    Seat 9: acoimbra (2050 in chips)
    spartman77: posts small blind 75
    schwarmann: posts big blind 150
    Preflop: mjcongleton dealt K Q
    Jmoneyyy: folds
    acoimbra: folds
    Simplicity8: folds
    mjcongleton: raises 300 to 450

    mtlbigrats: folds
    iceman1141: folds
    spartman77: folds
    schwarmann: folds
    mjcongleton collected 375 from pot
    mjcongleton: doesn't show hand


    K 6 MP1 (M = 6.62; f+f+F)
    Q 8 UTG+1 (M = 6.62; f+F)
    J 5 UTG (M = 6.62; F)
    2 Q BB (M = 6.62; f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    9 A SB (M = 5.96; f+c+f+f+f+f+F)
    A 5 BU (M = 5.62; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    7 6 CO (M = 5.62; f+f+f+f+F)
    8 4 MP2 (M = 4.22; f+f+f+F)
    Q 6 MP1 (M = 4.22; f+f+F)
    3 5 UTG+1 (M = 4.22; p+F)
    A 6 UTG (M = 4.22; F)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 4.22
    PokerStars Game #17090623475: Tournament #86602133, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/04/29 - 21:53:25 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '86602133 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Simplicity8 (580 in chips)
    Seat 2: mjcongleton (1265 in chips)
    Seat 4: iceman1141 (1790 in chips)
    Seat 6: spartman77 (2570 in chips)
    Seat 7: schwarmann (2870 in chips)
    Seat 8: Jmoneyyy (2675 in chips)
    Seat 9: acoimbra (1750 in chips)
    Simplicity8: posts small blind 100
    mjcongleton: posts big blind 200
    Preflop: mjcongleton dealt J K
    iceman1141: folds
    spartman77: folds
    schwarmann: folds
    Jmoneyyy: folds
    acoimbra: raises 1550 to 1750 and is all-in

    Simplicity8: folds
    mjcongleton: calls 1065 and is all-in

    Flop: A K Q
    Turn: T
    River: 4
    Showdown:
    mjcongleton: shows J K (a straight, Ten to Ace)
    acoimbra: shows K A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    mjcongleton collected 2630 from pot


    9 T SB (M = 8.77; f+f+r+p+f+F)
    6 9 BU (M = 8.43; f+f+f+f+F)
    7 3 CO (M = 5.33; f+f+p+F)
    2 9 MP1 (M = 5.27; f+f+F)
    T 6 UTG+1 (M = 5.22; p+F)
    2 T UTG (M = 5.17; F)
    J Q BB (M = 5.12; f+p+f+f+f+f+F)
    3 2 SB (M = 4.64; r+f+f+f+f+F)
    T 6 BU (M = 4.38; p+f+f+f+F)
    K Q CO (M = 4.33; c+f+f+F)
    8 J MP1 (M = 2.62; f+p+F)
    9 7 UTG (M = 2.67; F)
    4 2 BB (M = 2.64; p+f+f+f+f+F)
    5 Q SB (M = 2.07; f+p+f+f+F)
    8 K BU (M = 1.77; f+f+p+F)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 1.74
    PokerStars Game #17090832154: Tournament #86602133, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2008/04/29 - 22:03:40 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '86602133 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Simplicity8 (2970 in chips)
    Seat 2: mjcongleton (1305 in chips)
    Seat 4: iceman1141 (1830 in chips)
    Seat 6: spartman77 (70 in chips)
    Seat 8: Jmoneyyy (6880 in chips)
    Seat 9: acoimbra (445 in chips)
    All players post the ante 25
    spartman77: posts small blind 45 and is all-in
    Jmoneyyy: posts big blind 400
    Preflop: mjcongleton dealt 5 5
    acoimbra: folds
    Simplicity8: raises 400 to 800

    mjcongleton: raises 480 to 1280 and is all-in

    iceman1141: folds
    Jmoneyyy: folds
    Simplicity8: calls 480
    Flop: 6 6 4
    Turn: 2
    River: 8
    Showdown:
    Simplicity8: shows A A (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
    mjcongleton: shows 5 5 (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
    Simplicity8 collected 2825 from side pot
    spartman77: shows K 8 (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
    Simplicity8 collected 330 from main pot



    The Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.4w) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.
  2. #2
    2. AKs - I make it 120 rather than 90 to go at this level, but meh.

    3. KQo - this is a push/fold preflop situation and the correct decision is most likely to fold from two off the button. Standard raising isn't good here since you're committed if somebody either shoves over preflop or calls your raise.

    9 A SB (M = 5.96; f+c+f+f+f+f+F) (between 3 and 4) - consider shoving over with this one

    A 5 BU (M = 5.62; f+f+f+f+f+F) - could be a shove

    4. KJo - think this is fine to a short stacked button shoving into two shorter stacked blinds.

    K Q CO (M = 4.33; c+f+f+F) - could be a shove over depending on reads on the limper

    5. 55 - don't think this is terrible considering how short stacked you are. You either need to shove this one or the next 2-3 hands, might as well take a stand here.
  3. #3
    Hand 3 - Your too shortstacked to be making standard raises. From this early position its probably correct to fold preflop

    Hand 4 - This is totally read dependent...villian has to be raising with a really wide range, which is definetly possible

    Hand 5 - I think this is a fold but I'm not experienced in turbos
  4. #4
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    On top of what Taipan wrote:

    8Club AClub SB (M = 19.20; c+f+f+f+f+f+F) - I'm tempted to rais this to like 3.5x BB without a read.

    55 hand, I wonder if theres justification for folding here with one shorty AI and another who'll be AI next hand? Although that still leaves us 4 handed even if both go out... I probably play the same, but its tempting...
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    -Hand 3-
    Not so sure about this hand. you have around 8bb, so it's a shove/fold here. Not sure which though. I'm probably shoving here though, given the remaining players stacks. Now I'm not sure if there stacks would indicate a lighter call or a tigher call, but either way I think your good. If they are playing tight you will probably scoop the pot, and if they are calling loose you probably have the better hand here.

    -A9 SB (M = 5.96; f+c+f+f+f+f+F)-
    Depending on who the original caller is and his stack size, and how he BB has been playing, I might push this.

    -A5 BU (M = 5.62; f+f+f+f+f+F)-
    I'm probably pushing this too here as well. Depending on their stacks and whether they can let go of their blinds or not.

    -Hand 4-
    Ughhh. I'm not sure about this one. You only have 6bb which sucks, but you are the calling, which means you will have to showdown the winning hand. However, he is at around 8.5bb on the BU, so he could be shoving rather wide. So I'm not sure which play is best.

    -Hand 5-
    Yeah I'd toss it up here and hope to hold.

    Not a bad game. I think you pissed some good steal opportunities, that could have changed the outcome a big. Good luck in the next one.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    8Club AClub SB (M = 19.20; c+f+f+f+f+f+F) - I'm tempted to rais this to like 3.5x BB without a read.
    I wouldn't - you're likely to get called by UTG in which case a) you're OOP in a raised pot and b) even if you hit an A or 8 on the flop you'll have no idea whether you're good or bad.

    Fold >> complete >>>> raise IMO.
  7. #7
    OK, thanks guys. Maybe I'm not playing that badly. Just seems there are way to many really good players at this level. Certainly not a fish fest.
  8. #8
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    Definately not a fish fest, and as taipan said, I'm sure even just 1-2 skilled players is going to lower your ROI. And yeah, you aren't playing badly; however, you are mising a few spots to steal, which will help. Just keep brushing up on ICM, and definately download and use the SNGwiz trial if you don't have it already. A week with that program running all your SNG tournies in, and you will have a better grasp on when to shove/fold, and if your replayed this tourney again, you would notice a few spots, where you could have possibly gotten chips that coulda helped in folding that 55 hand.

    Keep at it. Good luck.
  9. #9
    Cant disagree with what anyones said so far.
    Have you got Poker tracker and PAhud? If your multitabling then these help you pick out shove/steal spots which you would have noticed without.
    For example if a loose player (someone with a high vpip) limps when the blinds are big, im going to shove a wider range than normal. This helps pick up chips.

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