JJ to preflop 3-bet ($27)

[taipan168]

Opp's stats were 38/13 over only about 25 hands. What's your move here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t1523)
MP1 (t1020)
Hero (t1350)
CO (t1697)
Button (t4960)
SB (t1240)
BB (t1710)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J.
2 folds, Hero raises to t150, CO raises to t550, 3 folds, Hero ????

[bjsaust]

I fold. I'd be more likely to call a push here.

Stats are bad, but not sure he's bad enough to raise with anything worse than AK here. A smaller pair I'd expect to just shove. This looks like he wants action.

[mukaka]

I'd also fold this.. early on they do these raises with tighter ranges IMO..

[TLR]

tough one, I can see a fold gere

[Ryski]

I find a fold here as well.

Calling for half your stack seems bad plus OOP.
Pushing seems bad because I'm pretty sure he's going to call with 3:1 odds.
It's a little early to stack with JJ I think plus I agree with bjsaust -- I think he wants action.

Btw what do the numbers 38/13 mean? Call/Raise? Is that pokertracker? Just curious.

[CoccoBill]

I'd probably sigh deeply and fold.

Btw what do the numbers 38/13 mean? Call/Raise? Is that pokertracker? Just curious.

PT stats yes. VP$IP/PF raise, aka Voluntarily Put $ In the Pot/Pre-Flop raise %.

[kstarm]

I agree with the fold. I like how this illustrates what good players do in this situation. This also might be used against good players. I have found some success reraising multi-tablers, winning players, etc..with rags because of their ability to lay down JJ, Ax, etc... in this situation. You have to know the player somewhat and have a good image, but you might be suprised at the frequency with which it works.

[drmcboy]

call, shove good flops, but I don't think anything you could do would be that bad

[fdnypoker]

i fold.

On a side note.....his stats are 38/13 (only 25 hands but it's a start) What are "good" number ranges. In other words what should your (my) numbers be around. I tend to play TAG and am usually around 12-18 but with a very high raise percentage. Should I be trying to increase this to 20% or so??

Just started using HUD last month. finally.

[taipan168]

I ended up shoving this, he showed me AQ. Agree with everybody that folding was probably the prudent course of action however.

[bjsaust]

Out of interest, did it flop an A or Q?

fdnypoker: My personal stats after 25k hands are 18/11, that sounds about right I guess. We're going to be super tight early, but once you have a fair sample of short-handed/HU play thats obviously going to skewer the amounts back up again.

[fdnypoker]

thanks bjsaust......I'm loving HUD. Been playing a long time w/o. It's a cool tool.

will keep an eye on the numbers

[taipan168]

Re stats: You have to look at it per blind level. I don't have PT here but once I get access to it I'll post what my VP$IP/PFR stats are by various blind level and overall.