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Top pair faces weird bet on river 400NL (with poll!)

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  1. #1

    Default Top pair faces weird bet on river 400NL (with poll!)

    Villain is pretty bad 31/17. No big hands with each other.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($59.40)
    BB ($429)
    Hero ($404)
    MP ($138.10)
    CO ($648.60)
    Button ($500.10)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A.
    Hero raises to $12, 4 folds, BB calls $8.

    Flop: ($26) 8, A, 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20.

    Turn: ($66) 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $44, BB calls $44.

    River: ($154) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $55, Hero
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    I pay the man his monies.
  3. #3
    if he is indeed bad, I call.

    Because he might be bad enough to call a shove too often and bad enough to make this bet with a hand we beat often enough.
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    If he's not calling my shove, I'm done with it.
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    extra sickness would be minraise and fold to shove
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    surely your good here 20% vs a likely not very good player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    extra sickness would be minraise and fold to shove
    Against a reasonably bad, unpredictable and aggressive player I think thats pretty bad. A weakish looking raise may induce a wtf bluff shove every so often which bones us.

    edit: Oh yea in the hand I call.
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    i call but expect to be beat most the time. one of those situations, where you just have to say nh sir, pay him, and move on.
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  9. #9
    I fold
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by minSim
    I fold
    'splain

    isnt it possible he turns Ax into a bluff here?
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    my rationale basically is that if a bad lag makes a river bet that gives me almost 4:1 on my call, im going to make that call TPGK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
    Quote Originally Posted by minSim
    I fold
    'splain

    isnt it possible he turns Ax into a bluff here?
    I don't think anyone betting this amount will expect a fold, so it's about never a bluff to me.
    It looks like a blocking / thin value bet from 2 pair or a 7.

    Imo the only reason to call this is when you expect this villain to blockbet with a worse A more than 20% (which he shouldn't imo).
    I don't think he is, which is why I fold.
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    fold cuz ur losing
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    i gotta admit, my first instinct was call, but vs a bad player if I'm on my A game I'll probably fold. It's a bad spot for a bluff. Kind of looks like a poorly played set.
    Edit: During play I would call. My A game isn't to that level yet. I think players like this could do this erratically with a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnybaker
    i gotta admit, my first instinct was call, but vs a bad player if I'm on my A game I'll probably fold. It's a bad spot for a bluff. Kind of looks like a poorly played set.
    My money's on A7 or A6 that doesn't know what to do because of the frush.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by donnybaker
    i gotta admit, my first instinct was call, but then all the good players said fold, so then i thought more and realized, hey you know what, it is a fold cuz of these reasons I can think of
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by donnybaker
    i gotta admit, my first instinct was call, but then all the good players said fold, so then i thought more and realized, hey you know what, it is a fold cuz of these reasons I can't think of
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  23. #23
    I don't fold good hands to retarded players making retarded small bets on retarded rivers.

    Yeah, you're beat here a lot. You will feel stupid making this call more often than not. It's still a call.

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