when i said that im not referring to the theoretical optimal, but to the opponents' range and tendencies. there's a wide enough unknown of those that i dont think the situational optimal can really be known since i think the lines are close enough.

what it boils down to is the more likely he is to be bluffing the more we should flat so as to extend rope, and the more likely it is he's got a hand the more we should shove since pretty much all flopped hands look stronger on flops than turns.