Picking Good Spots...

[Roco415]

Been thinking alot about picking good spots, and in this spot, ive oftened just shove...but in this one i folded, let me know what you guys think..thanks for any input...Feel free to discuss the overall concept behind picking good spots too if you feel itll be beneficial.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO (t3380)
Button (t1290)
SB (t3005)
Hero (t3375)
UTG (t960)
MP (t1490)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7.
4 folds, SB raises to t675, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t300

[Rage2100]

It would depend on how the SB had been playing. If he had been raising loads and you think he would fold to a push, maybe I would push, but I mostly fold here. I don't like going up against another biggish stack with 77.

[Roco415]

yeh this is less about the read and more about the concept of pushing here and the fact that one could be better off taing pots in position and avoiding a likely flip

[Rage2100]

yeh this is less about the read and more about the concept of pushing here and the fact that one could be better off taing pots in position and avoiding a likely flip

I think in general, you will get better spots than this. It does depend on reads though, especially with this hand as I think it is a borderline fold.

[bjsaust]

Bet sizes are often a good indication of their intentions, especially from weaker players. This guy has just stated he wants to get his whole stack in the middle, so good fold.

Also, its never a good idea to mess with another bigstack. Now, if he's decent he'll know that too and fold a LOT of his range, but unfortunately for all our clever strategys most opps arent decent and when he makes a -EV call it doesnt make it any better for you.

[drmcboy]

shove, we're a flip vs top 25 and he may fold some hands he should not like QT and I doubt he can get away from any PP here so now and then we get to be a huge favorite.

I don't really understand the comments about a big stack, our stack size is perfect to put pressure on. If you'd play against a smaller stack with no FE, why not play here?

[Rage2100]

I don't really understand the comments about a big stack, our stack size is perfect to put pressure on. If you'd play against a smaller stack with no FE, why not play here?

I did think this after I posted. As bjsaust said though, usually when someone makes a big over-raise, they very rarely fold to a shove, at least at the level I play. Then, usually, you are at best a flip. Occasionally you will be up against a lower pair but these people call with things like KQ, KJ, QJ, etc. as well as AK, AQ and overpairs.
I just thought a fold would be better in this situation. I did think it was close though. I really think this situation depends on reads.

[taipan168]

This is very read dependent. If SB has been very tight, not having made position raises/steals then I would think abou folding this. If I've seen SB raise and make retarded calls with hands like QTo for twice a starting stack I would also fold. Without those reads, in a game I would definitely shove over. We have HUGE leverage considering our stack size, opp should only call with a monster hand.

shove, we're a flip vs top 25 and he may fold some hands he should not like QT and I doubt he can get away from any PP here so now and then we get to be a huge favorite.

There is a HUGE ICM effect happening here, if he raised with QT he has to instamuck to our shove.

[Outlaw]

Raise to 1,500 or shove.

[bjsaust]

Has to and will are two different things though. Opp needs to be good enough to know he needs to fold if we shove, and so often he isnt.