$27 AJ first hand

[TLR]

First hand, no reads

PokerStars Game #17993965160: Tournament #91295984, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/06/08 - 04:58:33 (ET)
Table '91295984 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: phoenixr1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: PowellJam (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: bluvsfball (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: solococo (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: JDBJ3 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: freezinghot1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: JofSpadez (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: pAAuletta (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Forty2u (1500 in chips)
PowellJam: posts small blind 10
bluvsfball: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Forty2u [Jd Ac]
solococo: calls 20
JDBJ3: calls 20
freezinghot1: folds
JofSpadez: folds
pAAuletta: calls 20
Forty2u: raises 80 to 100
phoenixr1: calls 100
PowellJam: folds
bluvsfball: folds
solococo: folds
JDBJ3: calls 80
pAAuletta: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [Js 3s 6h]
JDBJ3: checks
pAAuletta: checks
Forty2u: bets 400
phoenixr1: folds
JDBJ3: folds
pAAuletta: raises 1000 to 1400 and is all-in
Forty2u: ?

[Fnord]

People are retarded, I call.

[taipan168]

I call and watch him show you a flush draw or a KJ, QJ, JT or worse Jx.

Personally I am not sure that I would have raised AJo from the CO with three limpers in front this early, I think I would have just called and played carefully on an A or J high flop.

[Fnord]

Personally I am not sure that I would have raised AJo from the CO with three limpers in front this early, I think I would have just called and played carefully on an A or J high flop.

This is reason #7 I hate SnGs that pay to place.

[taipan168]

Personally I am not sure that I would have raised AJo from the CO with three limpers in front this early, I think I would have just called and played carefully on an A or J high flop.

This is reason #7 I hate SnGs that pay to place.

I am super rusty at cash games. Would this be a straightforward position + value raise in a FR cash game?

[TLR]

I can see the logic of limping but I prefer to thin the field especially when I have position, this way I can have much more confidence when J or A flops

[Fnord]

I am super rusty at cash games. Would this be a straightforward position + value raise in a FR cash game?

Yeah, particularly against players who will commit to seeing flops and stack off light. The problem is that it's a pretty high variance play that will put you in spots like this where you kinda of have to shrug and call. Also, in the live game I play in, I'm going to face a lot of donk bets and play back at a lot of them with not much more than my table image.

[bjsaust]

I agree with everything Fnord and Taipan said.

I fold PF btw. Its not a choice between limping and raising, its a choice between folding and raising. Limping is your worst option.

[taipan168]

I fold PF btw. Its not a choice between limping and raising, its a choice between folding and raising. Limping is your worst option.

I don't always agree with this. Whilst most of the time we should either raise or fold, I don't see a reason to fold what is probably the best hand preflop but similarly I don't want to build a big pot when it will be difficult to play an A or J high flop. I think we can just call and see what happens on the flop.

[TLR]

I fold PF btw. Its not a choice between limping and raising, its a choice between folding and raising. Limping is your worst option.

I don't always agree with this. Whilst most of the time we should either raise or fold, I don't see a reason to fold what is probably the best hand preflop but similarly I don't want to build a big pot when it will be difficult to play an A or J high flop. I think we can just call and see what happens on the flop.

If you call it will be much harder to play an A or J high flop

[taipan168]

If you call it will be much harder to play an A or J high flop

I do not disagree, but it is also harder to get away from an A or J high flop when the pot is much bigger because we have bloated it preflop

[mukaka]

I think limping is better than raising here.. With AJo you play better against weaker aces that limp pre-flop.. I would limp behind here..

As played I'm all-in on the flop..

[TLR]

In a 6 way pot hitting an A or J is often no good, so basically you play AJ as pretty much ATC

[checkingout]

You need to call here, you beat more hands then have you beat. Only real hand I would worry about would be a flopped set but you beat all draws and crush a weaker jack. You already put in 1/3 of your stack, you cant fold here with so many hands you have beat.

[TLR]

I called, he had 69

[bjsaust]

Playing AJ in a limped pot seems like a great way to get into trouble to me. May pick up a small pot or get into real problem spots in bigger pots.

Nice call.

[mcdonough22]

I called, he had 69

Duh. Course he did.

/hand reading