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06-08-2008 05:54 PM #1
Ification View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date May 2008 Posts 60	Flopped quads:How aggressive? Villain is super aggressive and extremely loose. How aggressively should I play back at him after this flop? Keep calling even though i am getting nowhere near enough value on my hand or re-raise and "hope" hes strong enough to call? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (3 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) SB ($9.06) BB ($2.71) Hero ($9.18) Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K. Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, BB calls $0.06. Flop: ($0.24) K, K, K (3 players) SB bets $0.1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.10. Turn: ($0.44) 5 (2 players) Hero? Final Pot: $0.44

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06-08-2008 06:16 PM #2
Deanglow View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Feb 2007 Posts 3,256 Location lol	He'll call a flop raise with a pair and some A highs. Just do it

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06-08-2008 06:21 PM #3
badgers View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Feb 2007 Posts 4,395 Location Spewing	yeah his flop bet is tiny if you don't raise it you're failing to build a pot. ppl don't like folding FHs
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06-08-2008 06:47 PM #4
Ragnar4 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Sep 2005 Posts 3,184 Location Billings, Montana	And now over to Ollie Williams with in depth analysis on how to play big hands. ...............…………..„--~~""”¯¯¯””~~-„……………………………………..... ...... …………………..„-~”:::::::::::::::::::::::::”~,……………� ��…………………………. ……………….„~”\,:::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::”-,…………………………………....... …………….../;;;;;;\|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\…… ………………………............ ……………..\|;;;;;;;/:::::::””~~--::::::::::::::-~~”::\……………………………......... .. ……………./”~,;;/:::::::/¯¯¯¯¯’\:::::::::::/’¯¯¯¯’\…………………………..... .... …………….\ º: ¯::::::::\ . . • . ,/::::::::::\„ . • . ,/………………………………....... ……………/’::::::::::::::::”~~~”:::::/””~::::’\”~~”.::’\,………………� ��………………. ………….../:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::’\,__„„/’:::::::::::’\…………………………� �…... …………..\|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::„----„_„---,::::::::::\………………………........... …………..\|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::„~"----„__„„-“::::::::::\|…………………………...... . …………..\|::::::::::::::::::::::::::/’;;;;;;;;;/::::::::::::::::::\|…BIG HANDS BIG POTS! ………..„~”\:::::::::::::::::::::::::\__;;; ;;;\--„::::::::::::::/…………………………........ ……..,-“;:;\ .\,::::::::::::::::::::::::’\„_¯¯¯„-“:::::::::::::/…………………………......... ….„~”;:\;:;:;\, .”~„::::::::::::::::::::::::¯¯¯:::::::::::: :,-“;\………………………........... .,~”;:;:;:;\;:;:;:”-, . ”~--„:::::::::::::~--„„___„„~“::::„-‘ . \|;:'\”~-„………………………… “;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:;:;:;”-, . . .”~~---„„„„_______„„„--~” . ./ \|;:;:’\;:;”-,……………………... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\____;:;”-, ~-„ . . . . . . . . /;;;;;’\, . . .,/ . \|;:,~”;:;:;”-,…………….......... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;/;:;:;:;”~, “~-„_ . . . /„;;;;;;;/”-„~” . . \|;:;”~„;:;:;:;’\………………..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;:;:”~„ . .¯”~-’ . “~,;;;’\ . . . . .\|;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;’\……………..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;”~--„;:;:;:;:;:”~„ . . . . . .\|;;;;;;’\ . . . \|;:;:;:;/;:;:”~,;:;:\……………… ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~--„;:;:;:;:”~„ . . . \|;;;;;;;;’\, . .\|;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;’\;:;:\………........ ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;:;:;:”~„ .\|;;;;;;;;;;;”~,\|;:;:;/;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:\…………… ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;:;:”~„;;;;;;;;;;;;/;:;,/’;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\;:;:\…........... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\|,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;”~„;;;;;;/;:,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\;:;:'\……...... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;”~-„’\,;/ ,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:\|…........ ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:¯\„/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:\|………. ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:o;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:::;:\|;:;: \|........... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\|;:; :\|………. ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\|;:; :\|………. _;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:; :;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\|;:;: \|........... ;:;¯””~~--„„_\|_;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:; :;:;:;:\|;:;o;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|-~/……..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:¯””~~----„„„__;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|~“………… Thanks Ollie.
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06-08-2008 06:51 PM #5
badgers View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Feb 2007 Posts 4,395 Location Spewing	omfg amazing wp sir
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06-08-2008 06:59 PM #6
ATOTHEC101 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date May 2008 Posts 1,619	lmao nh ragnar
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06-08-2008 08:58 PM #7
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06-08-2008 10:28 PM #8
meeloche View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Feb 2007 Posts 3,056	Originally Posted by Ragnar4 And now over to Ollie Williams with in depth analysis on how to play big hands. ...............…………..„--~~""”¯¯¯””~~-„……………………………………..... ...... …………………..„-~”:::::::::::::::::::::::::”~,……………� ��…………………………. ……………….„~”\,:::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::”-,…………………………………....... …………….../;;;;;;\|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\…… ………………………............ ……………..\|;;;;;;;/:::::::””~~--::::::::::::::-~~”::\……………………………......... .. ……………./”~,;;/:::::::/¯¯¯¯¯’\:::::::::::/’¯¯¯¯’\…………………………..... .... …………….\ º: ¯::::::::\ . . • . ,/::::::::::\„ . • . ,/………………………………....... ……………/’::::::::::::::::”~~~”:::::/””~::::’\”~~”.::’\,………………� ��………………. ………….../:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::’\,__„„/’:::::::::::’\…………………………� �…... …………..\|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::„----„_„---,::::::::::\………………………........... …………..\|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::„~"----„__„„-“:::::::::…………………………....... …………..\|::::::::::::::::::::::::::/’;;;;;;;;;/:::::::::::::::::…BIG HANDS BIG POTS! ………..„~”\:::::::::::::::::::::::::\__;;; ;;;\--„::::::::::::::/…………………………........ ……..,-“;:;\ .\,::::::::::::::::::::::::’\„_¯¯¯„-“:::::::::::::/…………………………......... ….„~”;:\;:;:;\, .”~„::::::::::::::::::::::::¯¯¯:::::::::::: :,-“;\………………………........... .,~”;:;:;:;\;:;:;:”-, . ”~--„:::::::::::::~--„„___„„~“::::„-‘ . \|;:'\”~-„………………………… “;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:;:;:;”-, . . .”~~---„„„„_______„„„--~” . ./ \|;:;:’\;:;”-,……………………... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\____;:;”-, ~-„ . . . . . . . . /;;;;;’\, . . .,/ . \|;:,~”;:;:;”-,…………….......... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;/;:;:;:;”~, “~-„_ . . . /„;;;;;;;/”-„~” . . \|;:;”~„;:;:;:;’\………………..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;:;:”~„ . .¯”~-’ . “~,;;;’\ . . . . .\|;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;’\……………..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;”~--„;:;:;:;:;:”~„ . . . . . .\|;;;;;;’\ . . . \|;:;:;:;/;:;:”~,;:;:\……………… ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~--„;:;:;:;:”~„ . . . \|;;;;;;;;’\, . .\|;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;’\;:;:\………........ ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;:;:;:”~„ .\|;;;;;;;;;;;”~,\|;:;:;/;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:\…………… ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;:;:”~„;;;;;;;;;;;;/;:;,/’;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\;:;:\…........... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;”~„;;;;;;/;:,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\;:;:'\……...... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;”~-„’\,;/ ,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;…........ ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:¯\„/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;………. ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:::;;:;........... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;………. ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;………. _;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:; :;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;........... ;:;¯””~~--„„_\|_;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:; :;:;:;;:;o;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|-~/……..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:¯””~~----„„„__;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|~“………… Thanks Ollie. poty?

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06-09-2008 12:40 AM #9
Ragnar4 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Sep 2005 Posts 3,184 Location Billings, Montana	Originally Posted by meeloche Originally Posted by Ragnar4 And now over to Ollie Williams with in depth analysis on how to play big hands. ...............…………..„--~~""”¯¯¯””~~-„……………………………………..... ...... …………………..„-~”:::::::::::::::::::::::::”~,……………� ��…………………………. ……………….„~”\,:::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::”-,…………………………………....... …………….../;;;;;;\|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::\…… ………………………............ ……………..\|;;;;;;;/:::::::””~~--::::::::::::::-~~”::\……………………………......... .. ……………./”~,;;/:::::::/¯¯¯¯¯’\:::::::::::/’¯¯¯¯’\…………………………..... .... …………….\ º: ¯::::::::\ . . • . ,/::::::::::\„ . • . ,/………………………………....... ……………/’::::::::::::::::”~~~”:::::/””~::::’\”~~”.::’\,………………� ��………………. ………….../:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::’\,__„„/’:::::::::::’\…………………………� �…... …………..\|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::„----„_„---,::::::::::\………………………........... …………..\|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::„~"----„__„„-“:::::::::…………………………....... …………..\|::::::::::::::::::::::::::/’;;;;;;;;;/:::::::::::::::::…BIG HANDS BIG POTS! ………..„~”\:::::::::::::::::::::::::\__;;; ;;;\--„::::::::::::::/…………………………........ ……..,-“;:;\ .\,::::::::::::::::::::::::’\„_¯¯¯„-“:::::::::::::/…………………………......... ….„~”;:\;:;:;\, .”~„::::::::::::::::::::::::¯¯¯:::::::::::: :,-“;\………………………........... .,~”;:;:;:;\;:;:;:”-, . ”~--„:::::::::::::~--„„___„„~“::::„-‘ . \|;:'\”~-„………………………… “;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:;:;:;”-, . . .”~~---„„„„_______„„„--~” . ./ \|;:;:’\;:;”-,……………………... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\____;:;”-, ~-„ . . . . . . . . /;;;;;’\, . . .,/ . \|;:,~”;:;:;”-,…………….......... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;/;:;:;:;”~, “~-„_ . . . /„;;;;;;;/”-„~” . . \|;:;”~„;:;:;:;’\………………..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;:;:”~„ . .¯”~-’ . “~,;;;’\ . . . . .\|;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;’\……………..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;”~--„;:;:;:;:;:”~„ . . . . . .\|;;;;;;’\ . . . \|;:;:;:;/;:;:”~,;:;:\……………… ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~--„;:;:;:;:”~„ . . . \|;;;;;;;;’\, . .\|;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;’\;:;:\………........ ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;:;:;:”~„ .\|;;;;;;;;;;;”~,\|;:;:;/;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;:\…………… ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;:;:”~„;;;;;;;;;;;;/;:;,/’;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\;:;:\…........... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:”~-„;”~„;;;;;;/;:,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\;:;:'\……...... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;”~-„’\,;/ ,/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:\;:;…........ ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:¯\„/;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;………. ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:::;;:;........... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;………. ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;………. _;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:; :;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;........... ;:;¯””~~--„„_\|_;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:; :;:;:;;:;o;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|-~/……..... ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:¯””~~----„„„__;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;;:;:;:;\|;:;:;:;:;: ;:;:;:;:;:;:;:;\|~“………… Thanks Ollie. poty? I second that nomination!
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06-09-2008 05:10 AM #10
Marshall28 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Feb 2008 Posts 1,200	thx ollie.

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06-09-2008 05:35 PM #11
speedcake View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Join Date Sep 2007 Posts 530 Location NYC	I think that flop is far different from one in which you hold a PP and flop quads though. Obviously depending on the action, the opponent, history at the table also. Also depends on the texture of the flop other than your quads. Is there a draw villain might catch? is there a big card, A or K with your quad cards? Ive both played very slow until villain hits 2 pair/set/draw and stacked them as well as played aggressively and stacked them. With this three of a kind board I'd say start getting the money in, if villain has air and gets out then oh well.

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