Slowplayers piss me off so much

[TheScientist23]

Now a days at the low level SnG's, there are SOOO many people that slowplay monster hands like AA or flopped flushes, trips, or full houses that it's almost becoming an unprofitable action to bet when people check to you. Half the time they will fold, the other half they will either min-raise you or just call.

What the hell am I supposed to do in these situations?

An exampled:

I had 99 on the button with 5 people left. It's folded to me, and I make a 3x BB bet, expecting them just to fold, but if I get called I still have a decent hand. I get called by the SB and BB folds. Flop comes out 2-5-8 rainbow. SB checks, so I bet 2/3 of the pot, around 600, putting him on 2 missed overcards. He calls, and Im wondering what he could have. Turn is another undercard. I forget what. He checks again so I push. He calls and turns over AA.

Either I check the pot when they have a crappy hand then they steal, or I steal and they end up having a monster. What can I do?

[Fnord]

Take the free card more often when you have strong outs. Make your betting range more bipolar.

[taipan168]

Post the whole hand, stack sizes really matter here.

[Im_new]

Make your betting range more bipolar.

I have no clue what this means. Can you explain?

[jyms]

Make your betting range more bipolar.

I have no clue what this means. Can you explain?

Bet your monster and bet your bluffs. Stop betting your showdown hands and ballooning the pot when the only hands that will call or raise beat you.

Try to get lukewarm hands to showdown for less than stacks. Stop playing for stacks by thinking about where the bet sizes will get you on the river. Plan your hands.

[TheScientist23]

Yeah that's the thing, he was showing no aggression so I figured he didn't have anything so I was trying to make him fold rather than actually get to a showdown.

[GatorJH]

Yeah that's the thing, he was showing no aggression so I figured he didn't have anything so I was trying to make him fold rather than actually get to a showdown.

Why do you want someone with a worse hand to fold here? Think of the hands that he has and you are ahead of. Once you have that list see how many out villian has here to beat you. You will find that he has very few, yet may try to bluff at the pot on a later street (which you could then snap off).

Conversely, if you bet here, which hands that you beat are either check/calling or check/raising?

Basically, your hand isn't big enough to build a big pot with (because most of the hands that stay with you here are beating you), but is probably big enough to win with enough that you don't need to "bluff at the pot" to win it.

[TheScientist23]

Im just getting frusterated especially in the last few weeks because I will either take a stab at the pot and my opponent will end up having a monster he was slowplaying, or I check the flop and the other person either tries to steal (and makes it obvious, but not enough that I want to re-raise him to make sure) or just checks and then catchs his card on the next street. Maybe I'm just on a bad luck run right now, but it's lasting longer than I would like it to.

[bjsaust]

Try thinking in terms of value, rather than best/worst and folding hands out.

Sometimes you want opps to fold, but sometimes thats not the main goal.

[TheScientist23]

Yeah that makes sense. in this sort of situation, where they call my raise pre-flop then check on a low board, I put them on 2 overcards and make it my primary goal to make them fold before one of their cards come up and they have me beat.

[bjsaust]

I bet 2/3 of the pot, around 600, putting him on 2 missed overcards.

People dont call c-bets like that without something very often.

[Im_new]

I think you're right bjsaust, but I'm noticing a LOT more floaters on the flop. Many donks at $5 tables are calling cbets and hoping to catch later on. I'm starting to not cbet these players unless I hit something nice, like a pair or a big draw. Then again, when I'm OOP with a missed-AK or such and I don't bet... they LOVE to bet. I usually end up conflicted between a call (never good) or a shove over (high variance play though)...

ehh, just my thoughts