I'm New to Preflop Poker

[Genitruc]

So I've kind of reverted to a very laggy aggro style (both pre and post) in the past couple months, after having played a more loose-passive pre/aggro post game for a good while.

This has led to way more 3-betting/4-betting wars with regs and I feel pretty confident for the most part, although I have less of a feel for preflop spewing than most aggro taggs.

In this hand, I had just recently 5-bet shoved TT in a blind war vs the villain, who was running aggro at 29/21 on multiple tables (he basically insta-folded). I haven't seen him spew or make stupid plays so far.

Is this lol 180bb's deep? What if it were 250 or 300bb's?

First question is whether to 4-bet if I'm folding to a 5-bet, 2nd question is wtf do I do when he 5-bets? It's a little gross since I'm utg and he knows that etc...

Seat 1: who_the_h ($238 in chips)
Seat 2: 0fresh0 ($227 in chips)
Seat 3: h2theizzo ($239.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Z000M ($132 in chips)
Seat 5: pelj01 ($168.75 in chips)
Seat 6: JosephDel ($40 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($374.93 in chips)
Seat 8: Bu7pin ($273.50 in chips)
Seat 9: VILLAIN ($360.88 in chips)
Seat 10: Dann09121 ($275.05 in chips)
pelj01: posts small blind $1
JosephDel: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO
HERO: raises to $7
Bu7pin: folds
VILLAIN: raises to $22
Dann09121: folds
who_the_h: folds
0fresh0: folds
h2theizzo: folds
Z000M: folds
pelj01: folds
JosephDel: folds
HERO: raises to $56
VILLAIN: raises to $180
HERO

[Genitruc]

also how about QQ in this spot with the described dynamic?

[meeloche]

I probably still ship it in with KK here. Although I think there are merits to calling his 3 bet and playing pokah.

I wouldn't 4 bet QQ here this deep.

as you get deeper than 200bb I think you should play poker postflop instead of pissing around preflop.

[Deanglow]

I would flat preflop with QQ and KK every time.

[Fnord]

Can't see you getting away from this if you're playing so fast and loose and you're pretty sure that your opponents know this.

[Silly String]

Wow, shitty spot. The more I think about it he has to have AA here.
Given your read, he has to think you are 3/4betting somewhat light. But you are 4betting UTG which is almost always KK+.
I guess I look him up and expect to see AK or QQ enough to cover the times we run into AA. Though it wouldn't be the first time I shipped 180BB to AA w/ KK. I'm such a POW.

The size of his 5bet really confuses me. I can't tell if he is purposefully committing himself in case of a whiffed AK
OR
if he wants to get as much in the middle as possible w/ a made hand. Anyone have an opinion on if this large 5bet is strength or fear?

[Genitruc]

I shoved and villain snapped w AKo...?

Not sure what I think about his play tbh.

[Deanglow]

I shoved and villain snapped w AKo...?

Not sure what I think about his play tbh.

Yeah his play is pretty terrible. Your's isn't.

[badgers]

Your image must have been horrendous or he's just awful.

[nutsinho]

dont 4bet qq. do 4bet kk and dont fold. if over 200bb dont 4bet kk vs most players at 1/2.