50 NL hands from today

[DJJunkPauds]

Hand 1


Villain is 29/17/1.6 520

Stack sizes:
UTG: $53.04
CO: $51.44
Hero: $51.80
SB: $49.00
BB: $71.49

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q :heart: Q :club:
UTG calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 8 :club: 4 :spade: 4 :heart: ($6, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, SB calls.

Turn: 9 :diamond: ($14.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB raises to $18, Hero calls.

River: 2 :club: ($50.5, 2 players)
SB is all-in $24.5, Hero ???


Hand 2

Villain is 50/10/1 50

Stack sizes:
UTG: $66.26
Hero: $50.50
Button: $48.69
SB: $49.25
BB: $116.31

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 6 :club: 6 :heart:
UTG calls, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 5 :heart: 4 :heart: 3 :spade: ($8.25, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.75, Button raises all-in $46.19, UTG folds, Hero ???


Hand 3

Villain is unknown but looks passive so far

Stack sizes:
UTG: $30.32
Hero: $75.79
CO: $34.26
Button: $52.68
SB: $114.66
BB: $53.12

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q :spade: A :club:
UTG calls, Hero raises to $2.5, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 9 :spade: Q :heart: 8 :club: ($10.25, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $5, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: K :diamond: ($20.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.5, UTG raises all-in $22.82, Hero ???


Hand 4

Only 20 hands, but looking laggish already.

Stack sizes:
UTG: $67.50
UTG+1: $57.20
CO: $17.45
Button: $26.82
SB: $83.95
Hero: $49.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K :diamond: 8 :diamond:
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 4 :diamond: T :spade: 5 :diamond: ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, CO calls, Button raises to $3.5, SB folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: K :spade: ($12.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $11.76, Hero ???

[nutsinho]

1. Turn should be the interesting spot, not the river. Did you call the minraise expecting him to not push the river??? I think you should fold on the turn.

2. I would check the flop and also not call all in.

3. Why did you bet on the turn, and why this amount? Please explain your thought process here. Then people will tell you why this sucks and you will learn something.


4. Got any reads? This one seems reasonably close vs your average half-stacking drooler but if he's passive you should lay it down.

[DJJunkPauds]

1. I'm putting him on only a few 4s, 88-JJ, and he might just be dumb enough to do this with 98s. I was thinking I was WA/WB, and wanted to keep 98s/stone bluffs in (though stone bluffs are rarely a factor here). I was expecting to have to call all in on the river with 40% equity unless it was a T or a J.

2. Checking flop with at least 10 outs against pretty much everything that calls? Folding with what seemed like a bit over 45% equity when all I need to call is 42%?

3. I put in a value bet. He looked like he had a scared queen that was probably going to call. When he shoves I'm cursing, but I feel like he can be bluffing/have a worse queen often enough for me to call.

4. Hmm, I was sure I put my read in for that hand. It should have read "only 20 hands, but looks laggish already". I felt alright being in the hand, just wasn't sure whether to call or shove. And if I do call, am I call no matter what the river is, or folding without kings up/flush?

[minSim]

1. Turn should be the interesting spot, not the river. Did you call the minraise expecting him to not push the river??? I think you should fold on the turn.

2. I would check the flop and also not call all in.

3. Why did you bet on the turn, and why this amount? Please explain your thought process here. Then people will tell you why this sucks and you will learn something.


4. Got any reads? This one seems reasonably close vs your average half-stacking drooler but if he's passive you should lay it down.

1. Some players at this level indeed are able to do things like minraising turn and checking river. And him having 98 or TT-JJ is really possible as well as some weird combo draw. Are you really going away for so little?
(I probably would have shoved turn)

2. Could you explain the thoughts about checking flop? and more importantly your plan for the rest of the hand?
Tbh I would play the same as op (folding to the shove) because I'd be scared to give away free cards.

3. Again tbh, I would play the same as op (I hope I learn something as well), mostly to get value from pairs+gutshots.
Again, aren't you afraid to give free cards?

4. I fold, but I pot the flop (not that important).

[frosst]

1. looks like a turned set (considering his pfr %, i.e. what is he going to just call you with pre, his minimal aggression which makes me think he doesn't really bet unless he has a hand). as played, call to see what he has. but, tbh with 520 hands on him, you should have an idea of what he's holding when he min reraises, so you should either be folding or raising that turn.

2. fold. he's a loose passive. looks like he has the goods and isn't taking any chances on those draws.

[Viscount Vic]

1. Fold turn - How many low level guys call the flop then raise the turn without a big hand...

2. fold - A2, 26, any set, 2p, flush draw or overpair has us dogged at this point ... Don't see how you can call...

3. Looks like villain has 10J, maybe KJ K10... lot of hands have you beat here. Should of checked behind on the turn.

4. fold turn... looks like set or AA...

[xptboy]

1. I'd call the river shove considerring you called on turn

2. fold

3. fold, he could easily have a straight or two pair

4. hard to say... depends on ya reads on him

[DJJunkPauds]

2. fold - A2, 26, any set, 2p, flush draw or overpair has us dogged at this point ... Don't see how you can call...

It's the replies to this hand that have me most surprised. To me calling feels like break even and loosing rake at worst.

I'm a dog only to a straight. 2pr/sets/overpairs do not have us dogged at all. Behind yes, but not dogged. I'm flipping against 2pair, 40% against overpairs, and 35% against sets. Think of all those FD plus overs that we're also flipping against. I don't think a semi-unknown donk does this with every overs+fdraw every time, but he does do it with lots of them some of the time, no? Enough of the time to be quite equity-altering, surely. The range I gave villain in the moment put me at something like 43% assuming he's never bluffing, and I'll need is 40% equity to be only loosing rake. And let's face it, this does say air quite loud from him. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has air very often here, but at least enough to give us 2-3% in extra equity to cancel out whatever rake I might loose. I'll take break even variance any day of the week if it means I get info on a player. That's what ample bankrolls are for, no?

[nutsinho]

umm you bet 12.50 when he had 22.80 left or whatever. You are never folding out a better hand and you should be less than moderately concerned with giving a free card on this board. If he has QJ or QT he's not going to call the turn and fold the river for 10 more dollars. He also will expect you to bluff the river 0% of the time if he calls the turn since there is no money behind. The combo of these two things means he will be going all in or folding vs your bet size with these holdings, as well as going all in 100% of the time with better holdings. Additionally, it doesn't take this large of a bet to price out a hand like 67. He's got dirty outs, poor pot odds, and no implied odds--if you have a read that he would lead this type of hand on the flop , you should encourage him to continue drawing with a small turn bet. If you put in so much of the effective stacks in a spot like this its so terrible to not know what you are doing vs a jam. Better options for this hand are 1) bet/folding for 6 on the turn, and making another tiny value bet on the river when checked to, and 2) the best option; checking back the turn and value betting the river when checked to

As for the 66 hand, I check flop because a) stacking off and bet/folding are both pretty gay results vs most players, b) people don't bluffraise this board but do take stabs with crap if the PFR checks, c) it's good to have the ability to call 2+ bets after checking these types of boards; strengthens your range a lot. I would also check a hand like JThh on this board for similar reasons + deception.