200NL: Nut Flush being pushed on RIVER

[jimmy44]

Poker Room
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
10 players
Seat 1: Button ( $35.00 USD )
Seat 2: SB ( $422.45 USD )
Seat 3: Hero ( $224.95 USD )
Seat 4: UTG ( $19.25 USD )
Seat 5: UTG+1 ( $105.75 USD )
Seat 6: MP1 ( $388.35 USD )
Seat 7: MP2 ( $107.00 USD )
Seat 8: MP3 ( $219.90 USD )
Seat 9: CO+1 ( $190.55 USD )
Seat 10: CO ( $46.05 USD )
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with A T
8 folds, SB raises to $7, Hero calls.

Flop: 5 7 4 ($14, 2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero calls.

Turn: K ($32, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 9 ($32, 2 players)
SB bets $22, Hero raises to $100, SB raises to $429.45, Hero calls.

Villain was 15/12/4 (for 300 hands). Seemed pretty solid and I did not saw him get out of line. This is a call, but I was just wondering, with my line, can villain here have a Set here? or a Q? or a bluff?

[Keilah]

8c6c ftw.

If he doesn't have a straight flush here he's a total retard or on a bluff (and this is a pretty retarded spot for a bluff IMO, but I know jacksh!t about bluffing). Qc should clearly just flat your raise, and sets/straights probably the same.

I'm curious what he showed.

[badgers]

This spot is so gross. His range is like straight flush/ bluff and it's a pretty retarded spot to bluff although you did check the turn, which he might not think you would do with Ac.

Hmmmmm.

[d0zer]

Your line looks pretty weak all the way to the river -- I could imagine him thinking you're FOS on the river and just shoving over.

Plus this is BvB. I doubt he's giving you credit for much. Maybe he thinks he can push you off of a weak flush. If so, I hate his line given how much you've comitted by your river raise. Also a terrible line if he's got a baby flush.

[Monty3038]

Wow... well... My thought, and remember I'm a microstakes player, you have to call it.

You called in, just called his 3/4 pot bet... then checked when the total club scare flush appears on the turn.. so if I am him I probably put you on high pocket pair, possible set... he has to figure you stopped due to the flush possibility, or he has you on A-rag with pairing the rag...

I say you have to call him. He has the flush... I'd even say he is sitting on the Qc

[badgers]

I'm not folding this but I think his range is just straight flushes lol. I've just noticed how deep he is compared to you and you only need to call $116 here. That would make this a horrible bluff by him and he's not doing it for value with anything else.

Call/

I mean it's so gross. Call because you checked the turn and he miiiiiight just have air not believing you would check the turn w/ Ac but honestly it's a mindfuck of a hand.

[a500lbgorilla]

but you don't even have a pair!

[d0zer]

I'm not folding this but I think his range is just straight flushes lol.

HOLY NIT BATMAN.

I think the probability that this seemingly decent player is having a lapse in judgment / letting their gf take over is greater than the probability of them having flopped a straight flush.

Decent preflop stats does not make one a perfect postflop player.

[badgers]

name one hand that does this for value?

[d0zer]

I think it's more likely spew / tilt than it is value.

Tilt + is probably enough to convince this villain that a push here is for value.

[jyms]

It's a bluff 99% of the time. You win whether he has the Str8 flush or not. Checking behind the turn was meant to elicit this exact response, why are you questioning it now?

[badgers]

I think it's more likely spew / tilt than it is value.

I agree which is why I'm calling but his range is basically straight flush/air which is fucking wierd. Cos the straight flush is so unlikely statistically it's a call.

[JinxT4]

I think it's more likely spew / tilt than it is value.

Tilt + is probably enough to convince this villain that a push here is for value.

+1 for Ax Q or Kx Q

[bigred]

Fold, he has straight flush obv

you guys are so bad

[GatorJH]

Fold, he has straight flush obv

you guys are so bad

I'm not your guy, man.

[Deanglow]

Instead of focusing on the river look at the flop. Raise. And bet the turn.

[SushiWizard]

Am I the only one who wants to know what he showed?

[BankItDrew]

Checking behind the turn was meant to elicit this exact response, why are you questioning it now?

qft

[nutsinho]

so its like a minraise and ur thinking of folding a hand that beats everything but 63cc and 68cc. awesome. just raise flop bet turn and dont fold obv

[jimmy44]

Thanks for the comments!
I was not thinking of folding and we cannot fold.
My goal with this thread was to think about it and try to put villain in hands.

[Keilah]

im curious of his actual hand

[jimmy44]

im curious of his actual hand

villain had 86 and played it well IMO.