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  1. #1

    Default $38 SNG

    I think that I played this one pretty good. Take a look and let me know what you think. I haven't played these for awhile and was amazed at how bad the players were.

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    I'll take a look at this a little later, but I agree with you that there are surprisingly many bad players playing these tourneys. If I play 2-3 tables and have a $38 and $27 going at the same time, it's not uncommon that I find the standard of play at the $27 to be well above that of the $38.
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    Overall I think your play is pretty solid. I really like the raise preflop/c-bet flop sequences, presumably you had a read that this guy never floats the flop without some piece of the board. Most of my comments are really just matters of preference/style rather than real mistakes.

    2. 22 - sometimes I call the turn donkminbet. Even though you probably only have two outs, you have huge implied odds given there is a caller as well. There is also a small chance that you have the best hand and don't have to put any more chips in to showdown.

    3. AKo - love it. Make sure to make a note on this guy that he minraise bluffs and folds to shoves.

    T Q CO (M = 24.77; f+f+f+F) (between 3 and 4) - sometimes I turn the heat up and raise this considering your stack size

    4. K7s - not sure I like this one, you get called very often here by the average $38 donk.

    8. AJo - you played fine, but WOW is that guy terrible to cold call preflop then go broke on the flop. Interesting, if he shoved over preflop you would most likely have to fold.

    13. Q9o - I bet the flop because it's pretty drawy, plus I want to build the pot. I usually play top and bottom pair pretty fast, particularly on a board like that.

    14. K3o - I call the river donkminbet just to see what he has (ie. what does he call your raises with?)

    17/18. K7/K5 - I tend to just shove these hands rather than standard raising.

    3 Q SB (M = 18.04; F) (between 20 and 21) - I just shove this, I don't mind folding the T3 hand that comes a bit later though.

    22. 63s - wow, talk about giving free cards to beat you!
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Overall I think your play is pretty solid. I really like the raise preflop/c-bet flop sequences, presumably you had a read that this guy never floats the flop without some piece of the board. Most of my comments are really just matters of preference/style rather than real mistakes.

    2. 22 - sometimes I call the turn donkminbet. Even though you probably only have two outs, you have huge implied odds given there is a caller as well. There is also a small chance that you have the best hand and don't have to put any more chips in to showdown.

    3. AKo - love it. Make sure to make a note on this guy that he minraise bluffs and folds to shoves.

    T Q CO (M = 24.77; f+f+f+F) (between 3 and 4) - sometimes I turn the heat up and raise this considering your stack size

    4. K7s - not sure I like this one, you get called very often here by the average $38 donk.

    8. AJo - you played fine, but WOW is that guy terrible to cold call preflop then go broke on the flop. Interesting, if he shoved over preflop you would most likely have to fold.

    13. Q9o - I bet the flop because it's pretty drawy, plus I want to build the pot. I usually play top and bottom pair pretty fast, particularly on a board like that.

    14. K3o - I call the river donkminbet just to see what he has (ie. what does he call your raises with?)

    17/18. K7/K5 - I tend to just shove these hands rather than standard raising.

    3 Q SB (M = 18.04; F) (between 20 and 21) - I just shove this, I don't mind folding the T3 hand that comes a bit later though.

    22. 63s - wow, talk about giving free cards to beat you!
    Thanks for your review. I would normally do the things that you suggest however these players were pretty bad that standard raising instead of shoving tended to work a little better. The K7s hand was a read that I had on the guy. He would limp a shit load and fold to raises so I took a shot. Although it turns out that he was a little bit of a slow player and that bit him in the ass.
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    Hi guys!

    It's a long time!

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    3. AKo - love it. Make sure to make a note on this guy that he minraise bluffs and folds to shoves.
    I was going through the SNG and this hand hit me. Why are we 3betting shoving here with almost the nuts? This should be extraction time! I would call the min-raise and check TURN, expecting to check-raise all-in. If villain checks TURN then I would bet small RIVER to get calls from 66-TT. I might even be included to check RIVER (if villain checks TURN) so that villain could try a bluff
    The problem of having played this way is that the only hands that would call you are sets/2pair/straight and eventually AQ or AJ (if he is bad) and all the 66-TT fold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Hi guys!

    It's a long time!
    Has been a long time, how have you been dude?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    3. AKo - love it. Make sure to make a note on this guy that he minraise bluffs and folds to shoves.
    I was going through the SNG and this hand hit me. Why are we 3betting shoving here with almost the nuts? This should be extraction time! I would call the min-raise and check TURN, expecting to check-raise all-in. If villain checks TURN then I would bet small RIVER to get calls from 66-TT. I might even be included to check RIVER (if villain checks TURN) so that villain could try a bluff
    The problem of having played this way is that the only hands that would call you are sets/2pair/straight and eventually AQ or AJ (if he is bad) and all the 66-TT fold!
    I don't hate this line but if you are going to play like this then you have to bet at least 1/2 pot on the river for value. I am never checking the river if Villain checks behind on the turn because if he checks behind for a cheap(er) showdown then we have lost a lot of value. Plus, so many players can't fold their Ax in this spot if we shove over so I don't think that we lose much value by just shoving over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Hi guys!

    It's a long time!
    Has been a long time, how have you been dude?
    Fine! Continuing to play cash. trying to establish myself at 200NL
    And what about tai, when are you moving?

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    3. AKo - love it. Make sure to make a note on this guy that he minraise bluffs and folds to shoves.
    I was going through the SNG and this hand hit me. Why are we 3betting shoving here with almost the nuts? This should be extraction time! I would call the min-raise and check TURN, expecting to check-raise all-in. If villain checks TURN then I would bet small RIVER to get calls from 66-TT. I might even be included to check RIVER (if villain checks TURN) so that villain could try a bluff
    The problem of having played this way is that the only hands that would call you are sets/2pair/straight and eventually AQ or AJ (if he is bad) and all the 66-TT fold!
    I don't hate this line but if you are going to play like this then you have to bet at least 1/2 pot on the river for value. I am never checking the river if Villain checks behind on the turn because if he checks behind for a cheap(er) showdown then we have lost a lot of value. Plus, so many players can't fold their Ax in this spot if we shove over so I don't think that we lose much value by just shoving over.
    Betting 1/2 pot RIVER would not get too many calls from Ax, maybe A9/A8/A7 (but does he min raise this IP on FLOP?). AQ or AJ would bet TURN or RIVER.
    If you check both TURN & RIVER villain might put you on JJ-KK and might try to push you off.
    Even if villain checks behind on RIVER it's still OK, we are getting the same result as 3betting pushing the FLOP, the difference is that we are allowing villain to do a mistake by betting with the worst hand.
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    I played it that way because of the player. I wasn't afraid of anything and felt that this was the best way to extract. He was the type that was playing way too many hands and going too far with hands. Also, I paused for a second and thought that the shove would look not as strong as a reraise would. Maybe a call and then lead turn would have been better. Meh, I still won. Results!

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