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Pre Flop Odds Clarification Please

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  1. #1

    Default Pre Flop Odds Clarification Please

    This isn't limited to STT but figured you guys will really know your maths.

    Like most players, I like to know the approximate odds for the various pre flop match ups and it was watching PAD that I noticed some discrepancies so I ran some through Pokerstove to double check and got some head scratching results that I hope you can help with.

    I have listed the 5 common match ups below, with the “supposed” percentages in bold along with each category. 1, 2 & 3 hold true but 4 & 5 vary. The discrepancies (hands I noticed on PAD) are highlighted in bold. For the most part, I rounded figures up/down if they were close to the expected odds.

    1) Pp vs overcards = 55/45
    JJ vs AK = 45/55
    99 vs QJ = 45/55
    88 vs KJ = 45/55
    77 vs J9 = 45/55


    2) Sandwich (2 cards inbetween a higher and lower card) = 60/40

    AT vs KQ = 60/40
    K6 vs J9 = 60/40
    AT vs KQ = 60/40
    K8 vs Q9 = 60/40


    3) 2 over/2 under = 65/35
    AT vs 85 = 65/35
    AT vs 79 = 65/35
    AK vs JQ = 65/35
    QJ vs 96 = 65/35


    4) 1 over/1 under = 65/35
    AQ/KJ – 63/36
    KJ/QT – 63/37
    T8/97 – 63/36
    QT/J9 – 65/35
    QT vs A7 = 45/55
    KT vs A6 = 56/43


    4 are 65/35 yet 2 are flips at roughly 55/45?!?


    5) Dominated = 70/30
    T9/T8 – 70/30
    K10/K9 – 72/28
    AJ/AT – 73/26
    KQ/KJ - 73/26
    98/96 – 65/35



    Even bigger variance with almost an even split between 75/25, 70/30 & 65/35. How and why?


    Thx
  2. #2
    Assuming your numbers are correct ( i did not check)
    QT vs A7 = 45/55
    KT vs A6 = 56/43, should be the other way around (A6 is favvorite)

    Those are not example of 1 over 1 under, those are example when yuo have a sandwich (your category 2)

    Regarding the dominated section, as the cards are lower there is a better chance for a split pot, for example

    98 vs 96 will split in a board of 44AT3
    but KQ/KJ will not


  3. #3
    also QT makes a bunch more straights than A7.

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