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  1. #1

    Default Hero hits set of tens and calls this time...

    This time I hit a set of tens of the flop with a flush draw present. This hand is obviously different to those familiar with my set of queens fold. I'm a little worried my opponent is on a flush draw here, but a call is definitely in order here, right?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 (t1500)
    MP2 (t1470)
    MP3 (t1350)
    Hero (t1470)
    Button (t1660)
    SB (t1480)
    BB (t1460)
    UTG (t1630)
    UTG+1 (t1480)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T.
    UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, 3 folds, Hero calls t20, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t120) 4, T, 9 (6 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t40, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t120, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t80.

    Turn: (t360) 3 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets t280, UTG calls t280.

    River: (t920) 6 (2 players)
    UTG bets t1210 (All-In), Hero calls t1050 (All-In).

    Final Pot: t3020
  2. #2
    At least you didn't fold the flop. :P

    Idk much about SNGs, but I'd raise the flop harder (to 160 probably), then closer to pot on turn & I'd probably pay off the river if he has a flush.
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  3. #3
    Yeah, the flop bet gave him drawing odds if he had the flush. 80 chips to go when the pot is 280. It obviously has to be more to go. A bet of 180 would mean a pot of 120+40+180 = 340 (with 140 to call). Surely a bet of 200 would chase the villain out of pot here but a bet of less gives him the implied odds to call?
  4. #4
    You need to raise the flop quite a bit harder with that drawy board. 200 seems good - it also sets you up to bet enough to commit yourself on the turn without overbetting.

    As played, I call the river. Sure, they show up with a flush sometimes but there are other hands you beat that would play like this. I'd have built the pot on the flop and turn such that this would be a no brainer call on the river though.
  5. #5
    i would bet alot more on the flop,seeing a lot people behind me.
    i would bet a lot more on the turn too,sometimes i go all in,sometimes i dont,and those times that i dont,i paid them off with the flush.

    personally i would raise 200-300,and go heads up on the flop.
  6. #6
    Raise preflop
    Pot Flop
    Push turn


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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Raise preflop
    Pot Flop
    Push turn
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    Play big hands big at these stakes. Don't get tricky or slow play or small bet and give people odds to hang in a hand that they should be out of.. You have a big hand push every street. At this level they will pay you off or get out of your way.

    Pot flop, push HARD on the turn.
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  9. #9
    his line screams flush here but I just can't fold top set against these players.. I'm not too happy about it but I call the river..

    I agree with betting more in every street thing..
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    if calling the river bet is a mistake, limping TT and creating a 5-6way pot is a much larger one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS
    if calling the river bet is a mistake, limping TT and creating a 5-6way pot is a much larger one.
    I don't think that limping is a terrible play but I agree that I would most probably raise preflop, 100 to go. If you limp this hand and end up with a 5-6 way pot, you basically turned TT into 22 since you're playing for set value.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by kmind
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Raise preflop
    Pot Flop
    Push turn
    agreed, except youd be too deep to shove turn and probably miss value. as everyone else has said, your flop raise is just setting yourself up for trouble on this draw heavy board. turn bet seems ok to me...but i'd consider making it closer to full pot. this is a board you can get a lot of action from even if you price people out of draws due to the fact that villians think their overcards along with their draws are outs. you really need to protect your hand since its going to be pretty impossible to fold if the river brings a heart, 8, or K
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Raise preflop
    I'm surprised that it took 3 or 4 responses before someone said this. With two limpers already in front of him and the button, SB & BB still to act, limping was his biggest mistake here IMO.
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    Hmm, JJ is normally my 'raise-point' for pairs (given that there are limpers already in the pot). Of course TT is an auto-raise without any action before us, but what about if hero has 88 or 99 here. Is it still a raise if there are limpers in the pre-flop?
  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by kevster
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Raise preflop
    I'm surprised that it took 3 or 4 responses before someone said this. With two limpers already in front of him and the button, SB & BB still to act, limping was his biggest mistake here IMO.
    I actually don't think it's the most terrible play on earth to limp here. Definitely anything under TT I would be limping and playing for set value. I guess in this spot raising might buy us position, which is why it isn't so bad. That said, the issue with raising is that at this level the limptards will call with crap like QJ and KQ and overcards flop about 70% of the time when you have TT, so we're building a big pot when we may well have to give up on the flop. Therefore, I don't think limping and playing for set value is a bad play.
  16. #16
    I thinking limping TT for set value loses value in the long run, I raise with them every time if there is no raise in front of me


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